Worldview Announcement

FTR, if they don't release it for digital purchasing, then I wil buy the cd.

Thiago-Brazil wrote:On the other hand, the costumer has the right to have its own opinion about the price, as he can choose to buy it or not. 

Absolutely.....
I just believe in being respectful to the bands and not going in a round-a-bout way to imply they are gouging their fans.


This is not directed at anyone in particular...not FoJ or anyone else...just a general statement about the fandom that I see in a lot of places where they talk Christian metal:

So many fans squawk and squawk about how come it takes so long for bands to put out new albums, and so many fans beg for this band or that band to get back together, but when it comes to supporting the bands it seems a lot of fans get miserly. Just look at some of the negativity towards pricing of products (remember Joshua's last cd when it first came out?), or the people complaining about bands doing Kickstarter, or people complaining about Stryper merchandising, or saying that they will just listen to it on Spotify instead of buying it.....etc etc...not to mention those that just illegally download it. 

It just seems like so many fans (again, general statement) throughout the fandom don't realize what a sacrifice it can be for bands to put out new music.

Yes, in-home recording is at an all time high in terms of ease and affordability.

That still doesn't mean it's free. The bands still have to buy the equipment, take time off from work/family obligations in a lot of cases, plus hire people to work on the production and mastering.

I have a lot of friends in the business, so I have seen what they go through.

NOIH, I see what you mean. I actually understand that music is art, and the artist is allowed to sell for the price he guess it is fair. As for crowdfunding, it is the safest way for the bands to release new music and it is the fairest way as fans can make a balance of how much someone can pay and how much the fan are willing to pay for it. That is why these kinds of funding are becoming more and more popular.

I'm guessing this will eventually be available on Amazon? If so, I can wait and bundle it with something else I order from them. Even if the shipping isn't free I can probably use whatever credit card points I have to offset the shipping costs. It's all good.

bjorn agin wrote:I'm guessing this will eventually be available on Amazon? If so, I can wait and bundle it with something else I order from them. Even if the shipping isn't free I can probably use whatever credit card points I have to offset the shipping costs. It's all good.

It's already available for pre-order on Amazon. Unless you have Prime or buy $35 plus worth of stuff, it's $3.98 shipping. 

Which, btw, Amazon gets a discounted rate through the US Post Office due to their volume, and they buy their shipping boxes dirt cheap because of the massive amount they order at one time.

Amazon shipping 1 CD to NZ is crazy $15USD which is $20NZD. Hopefully some seller will sell it for for 50c someday, ha it happens.

Follower of Jesus wrote:I was fully ready to pre-order the CD. Until I saw that it is $14.95 + $5.95 shipping! Are you freaking kidding me?!?! No way. I'll get it digitally for $9 or $10 when it's out. That's insane. They wonder why downloading is taking over the CD industry.

Honestly, being in a band and actually forking out to record, manufacture, and distribute CD's, I feel $14.95 is very acceptable. I've walked into multiple Christian music stores to find them at $12.99-$16.99 through out the states. So again, I find $14.95 acceptable. $5.95 might be a little high on the shipping. I probably would've charged $4.95 or maybe $3.95 at the lowest. $2.50 barely covers the actual shipping to the states. Packing materials, gas, and overall time is worth something. I know Amazon charges $3.99 and they buy materials huge quantities.

I don't buy a ton of CD's anymore, but if it's good (or more like, REALLY GOOD) I buy it and I'll pay. I'd rather pay $20.00 for a steak than $5 for a burger. But that's just me.

Galations6.7 wrote:

Follower of Jesus wrote:I was fully ready to pre-order the CD. Until I saw that it is $14.95 + $5.95 shipping! Are you freaking kidding me?!?! No way. I'll get it digitally for $9 or $10 when it's out. That's insane. They wonder why downloading is taking over the CD industry.

Honestly, being in a band and actually forking out to record, manufacture, and distribute CD's, I feel $14.95 is very acceptable. I've walked into multiple Christian music stores to find them at $12.99-$16.99 through out the states. So again, I find $14.95 acceptable. $5.95 might be a little high on the shipping. I probably would've charged $4.95 or maybe $3.95 at the lowest. $2.50 barely covers the actual shipping to the states. Packing materials, gas, and overall time is worth something. I know Amazon charges $3.99 and they buy materials huge quantities.

I don't buy a ton of CD's anymore, but if it's good (or more like, REALLY GOOD) I buy it and I'll pay. I'd rather pay $20.00 for a steak than $5 for a burger. But that's just me.

I just sent a CD within the US and it cost me $5.55 to do so.  That was with a little bubble-wrap envelope and standard/cheapest shipping.  For big distributors, $5.95 seems pricy too, though for individuals, that's about what it costs!

Excellent news!! Can't wait to get a copy.

I have no issue with any of the costs, personally. $5.95 is fairly common anymore.

Please keep it civil, everyone, agree or not. I don't think the cost of shipping g on a CD is worth getting too worked up over.


Arttie

Hmmmm!!!  I am sorry the "Follower of Jesus" feels that way.  I assure you all that Worldview does NOT mean to over charge anyone.  My wife and I are shipping these items out ourselves and we weren't too sure what to charge.  We looked up several other band sites and this seem to be the norm.  

I want to alert anyone and everyone that there is NO MONEY to be made in Christian metal.  It is such a small sliver of the pie overall.  In Worldview, we play music because we enjoy it and seek to do some good in this world.  Spreading the Gospel, encouraging believers, bringing people back from depression and suicide, etc.  It would be nice to get support from our fans and not criticism.  Please pray for us and support the band by buying the CD.  I personally have spent thousands of dollars and hours in producing this CD.  The other guys in the band have put out great efforts as well.  I will never get that money back but that's ok.  I hope you all are blessed by the record and I hope you enjoy listening to it.  Thanks for listening.

GeorgeReneOchoa wrote:Hmmmm!!!  I am sorry the "Follower of Jesus" feels that way.  I assure you all that Worldview does mean to over charge anyone. 

So you admit it!

My wife and I are shipping these items out ourselves and we weren't too sure what to charge.  We looked up several other band sites and this seem to be the norm.  

I want to alert anyone and everyone that there is NO MONEY to be made in Christian metal.  It is such a small sliver of the pie overall.  In Worldview, we play music because we enjoy it and seek to do some good in this world.  Spreading the Gospel, encouraging believers, bringing people back from depression and suicide, etc.  It would be nice to get support from our fans and not criticism.  Please pray for us and support the band by buying the CD.  I personally have spent thousands of dollars and hours in producing this CD.  The other guys in the band have put out great efforts as well.  I will never get that money back but that's ok.  I hope you all are blessed by the record and I hope you enjoy listening to it.  Thanks for listening.

The music sounds nice. I'll likely buy the CD soon.

You guys got to do some charity work up in the Bay Area. That is play some shows...

GeorgeReneOchoa wrote:I want to alert anyone and everyone that there is NO MONEY to be made in Christian metal.  It is such a small sliver of the pie overall. 

This is not true. So far, I've made $5.43 from Christian metal. Granted, it all came from George.

Oh you be quiet Robert!  How long have I been pleading with you to release some tunes and take my money?!? 

Lol...


Arttie

I can't wait to get this CD.

Man! The things I miss when I quit visiting this site.

those that are all bent over a few extra bucks shipping in the U.S. ought to try being Canadian and  order something from the USA. Those guys in brown charged me an extra 35$ on top of their "shipping" amount due to "brokerage fees" on a 19$ t-shirt - 75 bucks by the time it was here.

mine is pre-ordered.

It was nice to hear the motives of this project from George Uchoa. Then I guessed it wouldn't hurt me to pre-order an autographed cd and a t-shirt, as well.

I enjoy supporting a few projects in christian metal as I was helped many times by the message contained in many of my favorites bands.