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Post by crusader on Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:20 pm

Hello everyone.

I was wondering if any of you can recommend me some classic and progressive rock bands (not metal) like Glass Harp or Ajalon.

wich one are your favorite progressive metal bands? Mine is Theocracy.

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Re: Christian Prog and classics

Post by metaldude on Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:59 pm

One of my favorite prog albums is Wake of Redemption's Earthshaker.
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Re: Christian Prog and classics

Post by Temple of Blood on Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:04 pm

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Re: Christian Prog and classics

Post by Superjuice on Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:32 pm

Glass Hammer (lyrics heavy with a C.S. Lewis influence):



Azure Circle (Peter Gabriel-era Genesis vibe):

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Post by Verbum Lux on Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:21 pm

If you want Christian progressive rock, you really need to listen to Neal Morse. One, ? (Question Mark), and Testimony 2 are all masterpieces, and he's got a lot of other great material.

He also has the Neal Morse Band, which is a bit more of a collaborative deal and is also top notch.  Their first album, the Grand Experiment, was quite good, and their second, The Similitude of a Dream, has become my favorite album of all time.

Both his solo albums (at least the prog ones) and the Neal Morse Band also have Mike Portnoy - who happens to be my favorite drummer - on them.

On a somewhat related note, Morse and Portnoy are both in the Transatlantic, and that bands songs sometimes have Christian elements in them - The Whirlwind in particular features a lot of Christian themes.

And yes, I'm something of a Neal Morse fanboy.  Smile

As for Christian progressive metal bands, I definitely concur about Theocracy.  They're the best by far.  Other favorites would be Harmony (their second album is a power prog masterpiece), Mehida, and Majestic Vanguard.  Also, if you don't mind prog mixed with death metal, Becoming The Archetypes Celestial Completion, Dichotomy, and The Physics of Fire are very good as well - particularly Celestial Completion.
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Post by Andreas89 on Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:00 am

Prog rock is kind of a toughie, although you're lucky that Neal Morse has been really productive since he became a christian. Glass Hammer is already mentioned, and as far as I know them, they make fine music. I'd also add Flagship to that list, if you don't mind Christian Liljegren singing prog rock Wink
Then there's also Eric Gilette (known from the Neal Morse Band).

As for my favourite christian prog metal band, I wouldn't put Theocracy in there because they are too heavily (heavenly!) set in power metal (which is a very important genre, as you can see in my title). Affector is absolutely prog, has almost exclusively Bible verses as lyrics and is very melodic.
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Post by Professor_Valconian on Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:16 pm

+1 for Affector. I wish they would come out with some new music.
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Re: Christian Prog and classics

Post by Driven on Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:20 pm

I don't know if Barnabas counts, but they definitely had a progressive edge, and they're borderline metal. Possibly one of the best bands of all time at their peak.

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Post by crusader on Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:21 am

metaldude wrote:One of my favorite prog albums is Wake of Redemption's Earthshaker.

 can you pass me some links? I can't find anything bout them scratch
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Post by crusader on Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:23 am

Temple of Blood wrote:Antithesis
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I think they are more like thrash, heavy metal. Antithesis are pretty good and very very underrated.
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Post by crusader on Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:27 am

Superjuice wrote:Glass Hammer (lyrics heavy with a C.S. Lewis influence):



Azure Circle (Peter Gabriel-era Genesis vibe):


I like pretty much Glass Hammer  Very Happy

Too bad those Azure Circle videos are blocked in my country.  Crying or Very sad
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Post by crusader on Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:35 am

Verbum Lux wrote:If you want Christian progressive rock, you really need to listen to Neal Morse. One, ? (Question Mark), and Testimony 2 are all masterpieces, and he's got a lot of other great material.

He also has the Neal Morse Band, which is a bit more of a collaborative deal and is also top notch.  Their first album, the Grand Experiment, was quite good, and their second, The Similitude of a Dream, has become my favorite album of all time.

Both his solo albums (at least the prog ones) and the Neal Morse Band also have Mike Portnoy - who happens to be my favorite drummer - on them.

On a somewhat related note, Morse and Portnoy are both in the Transatlantic, and that bands songs sometimes have Christian elements in them - The Whirlwind in particular features a lot of Christian themes.

And yes, I'm something of a Neal Morse fanboy.  Smile

As for Christian progressive metal bands, I definitely concur about Theocracy.  They're the best by far.  Other favorites would be Harmony (their second album is a power prog masterpiece), Mehida, and Majestic Vanguard.  Also, if you don't mind prog mixed with death metal, Becoming The Archetypes Celestial Completion, Dichotomy, and The Physics of Fire are very good as well - particularly Celestial Completion.

Thank you very much! Yes I can see you are a Neal Morse fanboy but hey, who doesn't love his work and additions to the prog community.

But I've never listened to his solo works, didn't knew it was christian at all, now I have some new material to discover.

Yeah I like theocracy very much and it's nice to hear some appreciation for Harmony my big time favorites with Narnia and Theocracy.  Smile

Also like Becoming The Archetypes. Thank you very much my friend!
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Post by crusader on Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:42 am

Andreas89 wrote:Prog rock is kind of a toughie, although you're lucky that Neal Morse has been really productive since he became a christian. Glass Hammer is already mentioned, and as far as I know them, they make fine music. I'd also add Flagship to that list, if you don't mind Christian Liljegren singing prog rock Wink
Then there's also Eric Gilette (known from the Neal Morse Band).

As for my favourite christian prog metal band, I wouldn't put Theocracy in there because they are too heavily (heavenly!) set in power metal (which is a very important genre, as you can see in my title). Affector is absolutely prog, has almost exclusively Bible verses as lyrics and is very melodic.

Nice another one I didn't knew (Flagship) thanks!

Hahahaha well on Christian Liljegren, I don't stand his vocals on Audiovision and Golden Resurrection. I prefer his vocals on Narnia and Divinefire.  Razz

Oh yeah Affector I got into them this week btw, very neat band!
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Post by crusader on Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:45 am

Driven wrote:I don't know if Barnabas counts, but they definitely had a progressive edge, and they're borderline metal. Possibly one of the best bands of all time at their peak.


Oh man! that introduction got me some perspective of what you say. I definitely will check them! Thanks my friend!  Very Happy
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Post by Superjuice on Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:31 am

There's tons of indi prog bands like Salem Hill.  Kerry Livgren did plenty of music after Kansas.  I remember the Flower Kings being talked about a lot, but never listened to them.




My favorite AD song:

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Post by alldatndensum on Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:58 pm

I never really checked out Livgren's stuff.  If all of his stuff is like that song, Superjuice, I might have to track this down.  Not bad at all!

It is a much older release, you but might like the musical musings of Juimmy Hotz:

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Post by Dynamis on Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:19 pm

Here are a few more for your listening pleasure:

Jupiter VI is Pink Floyd style progressive rock:




I cannot say enough good things about Orphan Project and its second album "Spooning Out The Sea":




Proto-Kaw is the new band to feature Kerry Livgren:

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Post by Dynamis on Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:25 pm

Hope I am not overwhelming you with choices, but here are a few more:

Sombre Holiday is progressive but with some Gothic nuances:




I also recommend Supernal Endgame:




Finally, Time Horizon provides and AOR take on the progressive genre:




There are more that I could add but do not wish to overwhelm you!
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Post by metaldude on Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:54 am

crusader wrote:
metaldude wrote:One of my favorite prog albums is Wake of Redemption's Earthshaker.

 can you pass me some links? I can't find anything bout them scratch





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Post by Andreas89 on Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:03 am

I may have to mention an actual 70s prog rock band, namely Barclay James Harvest. They weren't always very explicit, but explicit enough. On their website, they give information about each album and individual song, and they don't beat around the bush when it is supposed to be "understood" as christian.
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Post by Friday13th on Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:26 pm

Andreas89 wrote:I may have to mention an actual 70s prog rock band, namely Barclay James Harvest. They weren't always very explicit, but explicit enough. On their website, they give information about each album and individual song, and they don't beat around the bush when it is supposed to be "understood" as christian.

WOW! I like BJH, but I had no idea. I'll have to check it out. 


As for rec's, an early Christian Rock album that rarely gets mentioned is Phil Keaggy's Glass Harp debut. It isn't strictly prog or strictly Christian (I think another band member wrote some lyrics, hence the noticeable split in song themes), but hear the first 3 songs or so and you'll see why I mention it. Awesome guitar playing, and it certainly is with the times for 1970 early prog.

Kerry Livgren's "Seeds of Change" is a must, and Dio sings a couple songs. Kind of AOR/Prog similar to Kansas, but good songwriting.

I concur with Neal Morse and Affector.
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Post by Professor_Valconian on Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:05 pm

+1 for Orphan Project. I love both of their albums and spin them regularly. Definitely proggy.

A buddy of mine is good friends with the lead singer, Shane Lankford.
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Post by Guitar Noir on Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:31 am

I am surprised no one mentioned Iona.


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Post by Andreas89 on Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:55 am

^I keep forgetting them, indeed, I think I should check them out more.

Too bad about the fact that Troy Donockley is (became?) a Dawkins drone.
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Post by Friday13th on Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:22 pm

We noted some good stuff here. Andreas found the German band Eden, so chalk that band up as one of the best. I remembered an incredibly good one: Echolyn.

About half the members have stated they are Christians, and their lyrics have often reflected this (lots of heaven talk, and As the World has C.S. Lewis inspired lyrics). The band is often compared to Gentle Giant and Yes, but has also been well received in the prog community (Suffocating the Bloom, Mei, and As the World are all on the top 100 symphonic prog albums list on progarchives, and one of their albums ranked in top 100 prog albums of all time as voted by PROG magazine readers from what I remember).

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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:25 pm

I am not a prog rock fan, but that Time horizon band posted below called my attention when the video was released a year ago or so. Now I subscribed to their channel, so I can later on search for their music.

Another band I enjoy is sweet crystal. I am not sure if they fit as prog rockers, but that was the impression I got from their ep I bought.
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Post by Friday13th on Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:51 am

So I checked Jimmy Hotz thanks to alldatndensum. Then I was lead to Arkangel - Warrior. The lead instrumentalist Kemper Crabb caught my eye, as my dad used to play his Vigil album (nothing to do with rock, much less prog rock).

Sounds kind of like Kansas and Alan Parsons, but what stands out is the range of track styles and instruments used. Flutes, bagpipe (!), electric guitar, and synths abound. Excellent, just like Hotz. However, unlike Jimmy Hotz...excellence found its way to the album artwork too  Razz

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Post by Bahana on Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:46 pm

Sacred Warrior is good if you like Maiden/Queensryche style prog.
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