Sanctus Gladius Radio IMPORTANT NEWS regarding the new music laws.

Perhaps you could get your indie artists to sign a waiver that would waive their rights to royalty payments.  I've never received a dime from any airplay and would be honored just to have Mission Of One get some play.  I'd sign it.

Who do these fees go to?  I've certainly never seen a dime.

The new laws pretty much do away with the title Indie. they claim the fees will go to the copyright holders but that remains to be seen.  In My Opinion it is the RIAA take over of music and what may end up happening is we listen to what they tell us to.

SoundExchange is where the money goes.  If they cannot find the copyright holder then the funds go into "administration costs".  

I was "doing the right thing" by paying for licensing on my podcast/broadcast, even knowing that the Indie bands I feature on my show probably never saw a penny of it.  I wanted to follow the laws of the land, you know?  Now the cost of the license has more than doubled for me and I simply do not have the coin to pay for it.  The Master's Metal is non-commercial and has a limited audience, after all.  Plus, I am permanently disabled and living off of Social Security.

I am led to believe that The Master's Metal has given entertainment and edification to its audience.  Fans and friends have also stated that listening to the show has encouraged them to make album and merchandise purchases.  I think that is awesome!  I can tell you, this humble podcast has helped the bands far more than my license attached to it has...as most of the bands I play are not even registered with SoundExchange, ASCAP, BMI, SESAC or SOCAN!

Not my will, but, God's will be done.  Wherever He leads, I will follow.

alldatndensum wrote:Perhaps you could get your indie artists to sign a waiver that would waive their rights to royalty payments.  I've never received a dime from any airplay and would be honored just to have Mission Of One get some play.  I'd sign it.

Waivers won't do any good.  Get Caught broadcasting with no license and pay huge fines.  This will also pretty much force all bands to register with Ascap and then actually REGISTER each song in order to GET paid the royalties that will automatically be collected.

bummer

I'm really sorry bud...

looks like there are still some christian metal stations on live365...also found one on tunein radio as well as a few European stations...and with the web I am sure their will still be some underground stations broadcasting from country's that dont care...

here is a real good station...
http://www.deadtoselfradio.com/

The modern way around it would be a YouTube channel.

I think if there was a "featuring" and/or a "reviewing" spin on music you'd normally radio host, and you setup a Patreon account (for monthly donations), I'd sign up for that.

Live365 stations will be streaming until January 31 and then the plug will be pulled (unless they are able to secure secure financial investors by that time).  

I imagine that there will be some online Christian Metal stations capable of paying the new license rates through advertising revenue, donations and etc.  That is fantastic!

I also know of at least three online Christian Metal stations who plan on going the "Pirate Radio" route and will continue streaming until they receive a legal "Cease and Desist" letter.

I myself am in a pickle, of sorts.  I play almost entirely independent (indie) music from bands who are only rarely registered with SoundExchange, ASCAP, BMI, SESAC and SOCAN.  I will take a wild guess here that 98% of the music played on The Master's Metal never benefit from my being licensed.  Those who do receive royalties from my show, I would venture to say probably get a handful of pennies.  

Personally, I want to follow the laws of the land.  In my financial position at the moment, that means opting to ask for donations or advertising support...or move away from my current format (Music Podcast).

So how much are these fees? maybe the cmr members could save at least one of you guys if not both?

The licensing fees are $40 a month and that is on top of the fees that we each already pay for stream hosting and website hosting etc.

Radio Station Hosting: $29.00 USD monthly (or $290 USD annually with discount)
Radio Station Licensing: $59.50 USD monthly

That is a total of $1062.00 USD annually (not counting other administrative costs).

Yes, you can find less expensive hosting.  However, the cheaper options offer less listener slots, lower quality sound, increased possibility of downtime and etc.

I would do a GoFundMe money drive for this year's fees and keep your station alive.

Nice advice alldat

Where did you see the $40 a month? because I checked on the cost of licensing with ALL of the reporting agencies and it was around 1300-1400 a year. Are you getting this fee from streamlicensing? I checked out that site awhile back, and am still considering forking the cash.

I have always told myself that as long as I am alive and as long as I have the means I will keep Metal Blessing Radio on the air. I am considering paying streamlicensing possibly, but if I cant do that I am strongly considering staying on the air.

As many know I was on Live365 but they are officially closing their doors, they sent out the official email to all their broadcasters last week. I was already paying $40 a month to them for my stream since it was a hosting and blanket license bundle. Now I am paying $3 a month for hosting but without licensing, if I can afford licensing I will do it, but I also have to feed my family and that will of course come first.

I do recall Live365 telling us that we could provide them with waivers from bands, but I don't know the specifics of it. Either way that would be a huge amount of work.

I just received a letter from StreamLicensing... we may be shutting down Dead to Self and Fuel radio as well.

Garrison4JC wrote:Live365 stations will be streaming until January 31 and then the plug will be pulled (unless they are able to secure secure financial investors by that time).  

I imagine that there will be some online Christian Metal stations capable of paying the new license rates through advertising revenue, donations and etc.  That is fantastic!

I also know of at least three online Christian Metal stations who plan on going the "Pirate Radio" route and will continue streaming until they receive a legal "Cease and Desist" letter.

I myself am in a pickle, of sorts.  I play almost entirely independent (indie) music from bands who are only rarely registered with SoundExchange, ASCAP, BMI, SESAC and SOCAN.  I will take a wild guess here that 98% of the music played on The Master's Metal never benefit from my being licensed.  Those who do receive royalties from my show, I would venture to say probably get a handful of pennies.  

Personally, I want to follow the laws of the land.  In my financial position at the moment, that means opting to ask for donations or advertising support...or move away from my current format (Music Podcast).

Just curious, but how does this affect the Frontline Rewind podcast? They play a ton of music on that one and have some great interviews. And since they are essentially the record label would that have to pay themselves??

Hmm I just checked Streamlicensing and their LOWEST licensing plan has gone up to $59. Yikes and that's before 3rd party hosting fees. That means MBR alone when combining my stream hosting, web hosting and license would be around $75 a month, and another $69 per year for my SSL certificate.

I definitely cant afford that, especially between both of my radio stations. I have been weighing my options. I currently have 3 options:

1. Pay around $120 a month to license both Metal Blessing Radio and White Noise Radio

2. Become a "pirate" internet radio station and run the risk of an unlicensed broadcast

3. Shut down and end a season of my life.

Metal Blessing Radio has been pretty much my life for the last 8 years. It looks like Christian metal radio may be getting killed in one swoop. If at all possible I want at least one of us to stay online.

Seems strange that if someone wants to host "internet radio", (which seems the format of yesteryear) they have to pay ridiculously out the ass...

...where as the exact same thing on YouTube (and I've seen plenty of radio broadcasts on YouTube) will PAY YOU $5-$8 per 1,000 "listens".  (If you monetize your account, which everyone who's aiming for subscriptions should)

You know how many videos out there have one million views? Those people have at least 5 grand in their pocket from it.

I know what I would do if I had a radio show.

YouTube is just a haven for copyright infringement.

But they have money/legal power (GOOGLE!!!!) so they are safe from our legal system.

Let's regulate the little guys out of existence!  Justice is served!!!111111

ThomasEversole wrote:Seems strange that if someone wants to host "internet radio", (which seems the format of yesteryear) they have to pay ridiculously out the ass...

...where as the exact same thing on YouTube (and I've seen plenty of radio broadcasts on YouTube) will PAY YOU $5-$8 per 1,000 "listens".  (If you monetize your account, which everyone who's aiming for subscriptions should)

You know how many videos out there have one million views?  Those people have at least 5 grand in their pocket from it.

I know what I would do if I had a radio show.

I think uploading podcasts to youtube is a bad idea. If you had a license to cover your radio broadcast stream, relaying that stream somewhere else, or posting it elsewhere means that license no longer applies. So if I had a license for MBR and I posted it on youtube the RIAA could still get you for that.

Its been expected in the radio community for awhile that the RIAA will eventually start attacking youtubers and podcasters. Its coming, its just a matter of when..

We are talking about an organization that has sued 11 year old children, grandmothers and even deceased people. They are vultures.

I don't think the RIAA has the power to take on YouTube/Google.

70% of youtube videos are probably using copyrighted material.  Do you really think they will let someone take all those views away from them?