Joshua Perahia's website is taking pre-orders for remaster of "Joshua - Intense Defense"

MagnusPrime wrote:

dperahia4 wrote:

Also, I'm not judging anyone based on their income. I just think a bunch of guys who sit on forums all day in their mother's basement must have no other aspirations in their life other than getting angry and posting hate. Seeing most people have 1800-7000 posts on here show they literally have nothing better to do then gossip and pass judgement. Even if you weren't sitting on forums all day shows you contribute nothing to society instead of doing something good for the world. 

How dare you! I'll have you know that I do NOT sit in my mother's basement and post on forums all day!

I actually prefer the attic.

Well, there’s something we can agree on.

Considering how quickly you were able to start insulting people, I'd say that you don't get to complain about how christians behave among each other at times. I read "pulling the trigger" simply as "to make the decision to buy it"... nothing to do with the price.

I guess I'm among those people that doesn't own this album yet by the way. But no way that I'm gonna buy this version of the album. I've never paid 35 dollars for any album, not even for special editions of my favourite bands. And if the shipping costs within the US are 10 dollars, I shudder to think what they would be internationally.

dperahia4 wrote:

MagnusPrime wrote:

dperahia4 wrote:

Also, I'm not judging anyone based on their income. I just think a bunch of guys who sit on forums all day in their mother's basement must have no other aspirations in their life other than getting angry and posting hate. Seeing most people have 1800-7000 posts on here show they literally have nothing better to do then gossip and pass judgement. Even if you weren't sitting on forums all day shows you contribute nothing to society instead of doing something good for the world. 

How dare you! I'll have you know that I do NOT sit in my mother's basement and post on forums all day!

I actually prefer the attic.

Well, there’s something we can agree on.

Apparently the unwarranted rudeness is a genetic trait.  No wonder "Joshua" has never done anything for me.

So, are you the moderator insulting everyone on your dad's sites?
Interesting marketing strategy, insult the possible buyers.

Andreas89 wrote:Considering how quickly you were able to start insulting people, I'd say that you don't get to complain about how christians behave among each other at times. I read "pulling the trigger" simply as "to make the decision to buy it"... nothing to do with the price.

I guess I'm among those people that doesn't own this album yet by the way. But no way that I'm gonna buy this version of the album. I've never paid 35 dollars for any album, not even for special editions of my favourite bands. And if the shipping costs within the US are 10 dollars, I shudder to think what they would be internationally.

I wasn’t insulting anybody until I got attacked on here why don’t you read my first message and see how cordial I was on here. Of course though being a “Christian” site everyone goes for your throat on here. The CD has sold internationally more than the US. Joshua’s homeland of Thessaloniki Greece is the most popular city for sale as of right now.

Andreas89 wrote:Considering how quickly you were able to start insulting people, I'd say that you don't get to complain about how christians behave among each other at times. I read "pulling the trigger" simply as "to make the decision to buy it"... nothing to do with the price.

I guess I'm among those people that doesn't own this album yet by the way. But no way that I'm gonna buy this version of the album. I've never paid 35 dollars for any album, not even for special editions of my favourite bands. And if the shipping costs within the US are 10 dollars, I shudder to think what they would be internationally.

I wasn’t insulting anybody until I got attacked on here why don’t you read my first message and see how cordial I was on here. Of course though being a “Christian” site everyone goes for your throat on here. The CD has sold internationally more than the US. Joshua’s homeland of Thessaloniki Greece is the most popular city for sale as of right now.

Black Rider wrote:So, are you the moderator insulting everyone on your dad's sites?
Interesting marketing strategy, insult the possible buyers.

Guys like you have never been customers. In fact, most people buying the album are secularists mostly from Holland, Finland, Belgium, Germany, France, England, Greece, etc. So everyone insults me first and I’m suppose to take it is what your saying? Once again I was attacked first, I was very cordial and professional when I first started talking on here. Then all these neo American pseudo Christians like yourself came on here and started trouble as usual. I never drew first blood. That seems to be a theme on here though. Look at how quickly you all jumped in as soon as I commented.

Black Rider wrote:So, are you the moderator insulting everyone on your dad's sites?
Interesting marketing strategy, insult the possible buyers.

Guys like you have never been customers. In fact, most people buying the album are secularists mostly from Holland, Finland, Belgium, Germany, France, England, Greece, etc. So everyone insults me first and I’m suppose to take it is what your saying? Once again I was attacked first, I was very cordial and professional when I first started talking on here. Then all these neo American pseudo Christians like yourself came on here and started trouble as usual. I never drew first blood. That seems to be a theme on here though. Look at how quickly you all jumped in as soon as I commented.

BaleMaster wrote:

dperahia4 wrote:

MagnusPrime wrote:

dperahia4 wrote:

Also, I'm not judging anyone based on their income. I just think a bunch of guys who sit on forums all day in their mother's basement must have no other aspirations in their life other than getting angry and posting hate. Seeing most people have 1800-7000 posts on here show they literally have nothing better to do then gossip and pass judgement. Even if you weren't sitting on forums all day shows you contribute nothing to society instead of doing something good for the world. 

How dare you! I'll have you know that I do NOT sit in my mother's basement and post on forums all day!

I actually prefer the attic.

Well, there’s something we can agree on.

Apparently the unwarranted rudeness is a genetic trait.  No wonder "Joshua" has never done anything for me.

It must be genetic for you judgemental Christian’s to attack someone on here who started off with a cordial discussion. Why don’t you learn how to read and see my first post.

Black Rider wrote:

I’m laughing too buddy. Anytime you want to actually have a mature discussion let me know. Don’t think you guys can handle it though.

I just appreciate you insulting everyone then saying how judgemental they are. The irony is thick.

Black Rider wrote:I just appreciate you insulting everyone then saying how judgemental they are. The irony is thick.

I also appreciate how you drew first blood and expect me to just take it. It sounds like you’ve never finished a book because you can’t seem to read my first post. Did I insult anyone in my first post? No. Did I draw first blood? No. I stand by it. A bunch of phony judgmental Christians attacked me on here because I simply stated everything going on with the CDs. I encourage you to learn how to read. I hate toxicity like in this forum. That seems to be a favorite for people in here. This site actually has a foe list. Some Christian forum this is. They don’t even have that on Twitter or Facebook. XD

Black Rider wrote:I just appreciate you insulting everyone then saying how judgemental they are. The irony is thick.

I also appreciate how you drew first blood and expect me to just take it. It sounds like you’ve never finished a book because you can’t seem to read my first post. Did I insult anyone in my first post? No. Did I draw first blood? No. I stand by it. A bunch of phony judgmental Christians attacked me on here because I simply stated everything going on with the CDs. I encourage you to learn how to read. I hate toxicity like in this forum. That seems to be a favorite for people in here. This site actually has a foe list. Some Christian forum this is. They don’t even have that on Twitter or Facebook. XD

Oh, I agree, you are definitely the victim here.

Black Rider wrote:Oh, I agree, you are definitely the victim here.

Not trying to play victim here, just trying to bring logic. Something no one here is actually capable of. I’ll repeat myself since no one on here actually listens to anything. If you want to have a cordial discussion I’d be happy to oblige. By the way most of my “insults” were not insults they were just facts. People who complain about $45 must not be in the workforce since minimum wage is $15/hour. Everyone on here who drew first blood and ate judgmental and a phony Christians. Those are not insults just facts.

dperahia4, insulting others (yes, you are most definitely being insulting), suggesting folks are "phony Christians" and low-lives for posting on forums, and stirring the pot is unacceptable. You've been given a one-week vacation from here to cool down.

To everyone else, don't feed the troll please...

Kerrick wrote:dperahia4, insulting others (yes, you are most definitely being insulting), suggesting folks are "phony Christians" and low-lives for posting on forums, and stirring the pot is unacceptable.  You've been given a one-week vacation from here to cool down.

To everyone else, don't feed the troll please...

It’s not insulting, it’s the truth. A real Christian would’ve read my first message and said, “thank you for the explanation, hope you are doing well”. Tell me did you see any of that? The only trolls on here are you guys. I could’ve said literally anything and you would’ve stirred the pot. I already knew this would happen once I got on here. You guys didn’t disappoint. Maybe you guys should cool off. Come back to the forum when you want a “good clean Christian debate”. Like that would ever happen, you guys couldn’t handle it.

Sorry everyone, I'm not sure why the temp-ban didn't go into effect earlier. Should be set now.

DP, I don't suspect anything I'll say will be heeded or heard, but just in case, I implore you to look back at our posts (ignoring all others' posts for the moment). Regardless of what the others posted, how you're treating folks here is not appropriate. You just admitted to intentionally stirring the pot here. I'm being generous with only a one-week temporary ban and have perma-banned users for less. If/when you return, please treat others with dignity and respect. This is your warning.

Besides the fact that both sides have entered in the discussion and was a part of the argument, It is clearly seen that some folks still carry bad feelings from Joshua's last appearance in the forum and comments about Michael Sweet.

That said, the discussion of value is simply no sense. We all do it all the time. Someone give us the price of a good and then we evaluate if it worth buying. And it is a personal choice.

So, can Joshua sell a CD for $45? Why not?
Is it worth? Depend on each one's evaluation. It doesn't mean though, if someone would pass due to the value, that this person is not a hard worker...

Is it expensive? Probably, but many of you have been a part of crowdfunding and have paid similar amount in album  that  you didn't even knew if it would sound good?
Btw, many of these projects have had a huge delay in production, as well.
And I am pretty sure many of you are concerned that nowadays it is nearly impossible for an artist making profit out of CD selling.

I can even tell you, I would love to have this album, but, besides being successful in my carreer, I have had a huge cut of 45% of my family income. Plus the depreciation of the Brazilian currency and high costing of international shipping made buying music a fancy expense. So, I am not buying any music soon.

I am not trying to defend no one here, I am just giving you my two cents.

I have to say, this is one of the funniest threads ever.

^I can't disagree with that!

I can't say I find it funny. It was a typical situation of someone who wanted to start a big stink but didn't want to be accused of 'starting it all'... for someone who wants to avoid argument, he certainly jumped on the slightest chance to insult people. And it wasn't even criticism by alldat, this guy just twisted the meaning of alldat's words to use as an excuse to act like a jerk.

But what offended me the most is that he implied that I'm American 

Hey now, I'm offended that you're offended!

Nothing personal, man. But still....