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Post by alldatndensum Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:18 am

I know that there are a lot of KISS fans and haters here.  This question is for the fans, though.  Which one album do you think was the WORST of their releases?
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Post by metaldude Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:14 am

In my opinion, there is Kiss, then there is the Stanley/Simmons project. There are no bad albums with the original lineup. That said, my vote would be The Elder. It had a few good tunes but overall, it was a pretty weak album.
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Post by 11razorwire Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:17 am

Been a KISS fan for decades and I, too, think The Elder is their weak-point.
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Post by Black Rider Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:53 am

As a casual fan I only really enjoy two album as a whole, Destroyer and Creatures of the Night. The rest all had a lot of filler imo.
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Post by Guest Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:05 pm

I want to like The Elder, but it is just bad no matter how many times I listen.

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Post by MikeInFla Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:46 am

I am a very casual fan and prefer the non-make up stuff. I was in high school during most of that period (I think Animalize came out when i was in the 8th grade). I love Lick It Up, Animalize, Asylum so I guess I have to pick the weakest of that era which would  be Crazy Nights. Has a few decent tunes and it did well for them but that album is bubblegum metal.

I have never heard The Elder. It go so much flack over the years I just decided it wasn't worth my time checking out.
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Post by Highway Star Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:40 pm

KISS albums are like pizza, some are better than others but they are all good.
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Post by Highway Star Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:42 pm

The Elder has some good songs, especially the Ace Songs.
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Post by alldatndensum Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:17 am

The Elder is bad overall.  Running right behind it is Carnival Of Souls.  Fans didn't want a KISS grunge album.

While I like Hot In The Shade as an album, it really wasn't a KISS record.  It is too pop-rock with too much use of keyboards.

My favorite era of the band is the 80s, though.  From Creatures Of The Night through Asylum was definitely a great time musically for the band.
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Post by MikeInFla Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:36 am

Another one I avoided but have heard on Spotify is Dynasty. Some songs are OK, others not so good. This one isn't very good. I know the "times were a changin" musically when this album was released.



The chorus is decent, I wonder what this would've sounded like if they recorded it later on.
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Post by Highway Star Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:59 pm

I grew on KISS including Dynasty, Unmasked and the Elder and I like them all. I agree about Carnival of Souls.
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Post by Staybrite Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:41 pm

MikeInFla wrote:Another one I avoided but have heard on Spotify is Dynasty. Some songs are OK, others not so good. This one isn't very good. I know the "times were a changin" musically when this album was released.



The chorus is decent, I wonder what this would've sounded like if they recorded it later on.


I thought the acoustic version on their Unplugged album of the song turned out better than the original.  It lost a little of that 70's semi-disco sheen that permeated some of their music.  They always walked the line between pop and hard rock....often times veering a little too far into the pop side.

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Post by alldatndensum Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:27 pm

The acoustic version is way cooler.  Too bad they couldn't have recorded that on "Dynasty".  I think it would have been a big hit for them that way.
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Post by Guitar Noir Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:40 am

I am a long time KISS fan. There is no KISS album that I dislike. I would say that their weakest album is Carnival Of Souls. Overall it is a decent album, but it really does not sound like a KISS album.

Just to add my two cents about The Elder. I think it is an excellent album, it is one my favorites by the band.
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Post by exo Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:31 am

There's a "good" KISS album?

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Post by Staybrite Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:44 pm

exo wrote:There's a "good" KISS album?

Ouch!
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Post by alldatndensum Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:21 pm

exo wrote:There's a "good" KISS album?



Only if you have really GOOD taste in music!  lol! lol! lol!
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Post by metaldude Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:03 am

exo wrote:There's a "good" KISS album?

Where's the BanHammer?
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Post by alldatndensum Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:03 pm

We sent it out for a good cleaning.  It has gotten dusty with little to no need for it lately.
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Post by exo Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:15 am

alldatndensum wrote:We sent it out for a good cleaning.  It has gotten dusty with little to no need for it lately.
That is a GREAT thing.  I'm happier when I don't feel compelled to channel Thor.....

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Post by alldatndensum Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:31 am

exo wrote:
alldatndensum wrote:We sent it out for a good cleaning.  It has gotten dusty with little to no need for it lately.
That is a GREAT thing.  I'm happier when I don't feel compelled to channel Thor.....


Thanks for letting me borrow it for my Big Chris & D'Bare Bones Band page on Facebook.  I have had to remove TWO knuckleheads lately.
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Post by heck Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:00 pm

3 worst: Carnival of Souls, The Elder, Monster.

3 best: Creatures of the Night, Lick it Up, Revenge. (I'd put Alive 1 on this list but I assume we're grading studio albums).

All other albums have way too much filler. The songs on Alive 1 are basically the only good songs in the first 3 albums. Ditto for Alive 2 (And with the exception of Rocket Ride Kiss even managed to give us filler on a freaking live album).

HOWEVER, Alive 3 could have had so many great songs from the post-Elder album sequence (Exciter, I've Had Enough, Any Way You Slice It, Fits Like a Glove, Under the Gun, Thrills in the Night, Paralyzed, Spit, Danger, Killer, I Still Love You, Young and Wasted, All Hell's Breaking Loose, No No No, Silver Spoon, and even Boomerang for example). Agree that all other no-make up records are full of filler.

Finally, Sonic Boom was infinitely better than the garbage that was Monster.

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Post by Jaybird Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:08 pm

Carnival Of Souls.  Total snoozefest.  Followed by Dynasty
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