Re: "It's Superstitious"

by Guest Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:46 pm

I'm not familiar with L.A. Marzulli or Russ Dizdar or any of their work....So I can't really comment on any of that.

I just want to know why interpreting the "sons of God" as the fallen angels is considered "lunacy" here?

I think there is sufficient evidence that points to the "sons of God" being the fallen angels.

I don't think there is really any that points to them being the sons of Seth.

by Candlemass Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:48 pm

I know Russ Dizdar, he's from my area, he uses sophistry and the worst forms of eisegesis to come up w/his ridiculous conspiracy theories! Twisted Evil

by Candlemass Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:51 pm

Mortal wrote:I'm not familiar with L.A. Marzulli or Russ Dizdar or any of their work....So I can't really comment on any of that.

I just want to know why interpreting the "sons of God" as the fallen angels is considered "lunacy" here?

I think there is sufficient evidence that points to the "sons of God" being the fallen angels.

I don't think there is really any that points to them being the sons of Seth.

Sure about that?

http://www.equip.org/article/who-were-the-sons-of-god-in-genesis-6/#christian-books-3

by Guest Sat Jan 03, 2015 8:29 pm

Candlemass wrote:
Mortal wrote:I'm not familiar with L.A. Marzulli or Russ Dizdar or any of their work....So I can't really comment on any of that.

I just want to know why interpreting the "sons of God" as the fallen angels is considered "lunacy" here?

I think there is sufficient evidence that points to the "sons of God" being the fallen angels.

I don't think there is really any that points to them being the sons of Seth.

Sure about that?

http://www.equip.org/article/who-were-the-sons-of-god-in-genesis-6/#christian-books-3

Are there any specific points in this article that are supposed to be real sufficent evidence for the "sons of Seth" theory?

I can't seem to find any.

However I do see alot of ridiculous generalizations against those that hold to the fallen angel idea.

by Candlemass Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:03 pm

"Ridiculous arguments?" Like this idea has more in common w/Greek mythology than authentic Christianity, or the problem of a human/demonic hybrid that has no free will and would be damned at birth?! Shocked

by Guest Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:08 pm

Candlemass wrote:"Ridiculous arguments?" Like this idea has more in common w/Greek mythology than authentic Christianity, or the problem of a human/demonic hybrid that has no free will and would be damned at birth?!

Eh...I was hoping for a better response rather than reading more broad sweeping generalizations.

by Candlemass Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:10 pm

Superjuice wrote:

Russ Dizdar is a stud warrior of God

by Guest Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:28 pm

For some reason, Candlemass, I don't really think you have even read/looked into these articles/videos and therefore are not familiar with their content.

It seems as if you are just posting whatever you can find on the interwebz.

by Candlemass Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:58 pm

I have looked into them, but one needs little more than a cursory glance at some ideas to know that they're ridiculous, and I already stated that I know Russ Dizdar.

Once I hear "the nephilim", "alien hybrids", "SRA", "the illuminati"...I don't need to hear anymore, I know what's coming. In the same way, when I hear "slain in the spirit", "drunk in the spirit", "holy laughter", "last day prophets"...I don't need to hear anymore, I know what's coming. I've heard all this before, it was drivel then, it's drivel now, and it always will be drivel. What all this has in common is sophistry, embellishment, and sensationalism...

by Guest Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:11 pm

Candlemass wrote:but one needs a little more than a cursory glance at some ideas to know that they're ridiculous...

^CORRECTED

Candlemass wrote:I have looked into them

I have asked a few questions about the videos and articles that you didn't answer.

And if you did answer them, you just made more broad sweeping generalizations.

I asked some pretty specific questions too.

by Candlemass Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:19 pm

As usual, no answer I ever give to you is to your satisfaction...

by Guest Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:27 pm

Candlemass wrote:As usual, no answer I ever give to you is to your satisfaction...

Hey...I can just go with the answers you gave me...it's cool.

...but they are not really answers to the questions I asked.

by Guest Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:45 pm

Here are my questions again...

In regards to the video you posted titled...LA Marzulli and Russ Dizdar.

Mortal wrote:Is there anything specific to look out for that you would label as "lunacy"?

You responded with...

Candlemass wrote:Well, other than just about everything that comes out of his mouth, the idea that fallen angels did "the dirty deed" w/women...

This is not an answer to my question...so it's really no wonder if I am not "satisfied" with your answer.

Then you went on to post an article that brought up more questions...

Candlemass wrote:http://www.equip.org/bible_answers/did-demons-have-sexual-relations-with-women-in-genesis-64/

...which you didn't answer.

Instead you posted ANOTHER article...

Candlemass wrote:Sure about that?

http://www.equip.org/article/who-were-the-sons-of-god-in-genesis-6/#christian-books-3

...which brought up even more questions...

Mortal wrote:Are there any specific points in this article that are supposed to be real sufficent evidence for the "sons of Seth" theory?

...that you didn't answer either.

It is really any wonder why one wouldn't be "satisfied" with your "answers"?

It it really any wonder why one would assume that you are not familiar with any of the content you are posting and are just grabbing whatever stuff you can find on the interwebz?

by Candlemass Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:54 pm

I am not a conspiracy theorist, I do not subscribe to conspiracy theories, I have better things to do w/my time than going into detail about what every nut job has to say. If you don't see a number of red flags in what Russ Dizdar teaches, nothing I say will dissuade you...

by Candlemass Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:57 pm

Plus there where a number of points in those links I provided that gave solid teaching/answers for "the sons of Seth" argument, not my problem if you don't accept them...

by Guest Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:10 pm

Candlemass wrote:I am not a conspiracy theorist, I do not subscribe to conspiracy theories, I have better things to do w/my time than going into detail about what every nut job has to say. If you don't see a number of red flags in what Russ Dizdar teaches, nothing I say will dissuade you...

Haha! Well...

You haven't said anything yet.

I'll just assume that you are trying to make a caricature out of people you don't know...and their ideas that you are not familiar with.

Is that a fair assessment?

If it is, just say so.

by Guest Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:31 pm

Candlemass wrote:Plus there where a number of points in those links I provided that gave solid teaching/answers for "the sons of Seth" argument, not my problem if you don't accept them...

Again...with all the broad sweeping generalizations, there doesn't seem to be any solid teaching or answers.

Those articles are not all that hard to refute.

By the way...I still asked some specific questions about those articles that you haven't answered yet.

I just wanted to let you know just in case you wanted to give an answer.

If not, I'll just assume my earlier assessment was correct.

by Candlemass Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:09 am

Assume whatever you like.

by Candlemass Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:18 am

So the aliens built Stonehenge and the Pyramids...so, what good are they? Couldn't they have built something a little more practical like a hover mower? Chances are they came in on a hovercraft! Laughing

by Guest Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:42 am

Candlemass wrote:So the aliens built Stonehenge and the Pyramids...so, what good are they? Couldn't they have built something a little more practical like a hover mower? Chances are they came in on a hovercraft!

Since it seems acceptable to answer direct questions by just posting a link that doesn't provide any answers to the questions asked, here's a link that will not provide any answers to your direct questions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bozo_the_Clown

Now there's your answers.

It's not my problem if you don't accept them.

by Candlemass Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:26 am

Why do you play the fool so often?

by Guest Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:40 am

Candlemass wrote:Why do you play the fool so often?

by Candlemass Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:43 am

Is the wise man always right... Question

by Guest Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:53 am

Candlemass wrote:Is the wise man always right...

by Guest Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:14 pm

Candlemass wrote:I am not a conspiracy theorist, I do not subscribe to conspiracy theories, I have better things to do w/my time than going into detail about what every nut job has to say. If you don't see a number of red flags in what Russ Dizdar teaches, nothing I say will dissuade you...

After reading all the broad generalizations and attempts to caricaturize,...

...one has to wonder...

Why so superstitious?
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Candlemass wrote:I have better things to do w/my time than going into detail about what every nut job has to say.

And what exactly would those "better things" be?

Attempting to make a caricature out of something that you don't particularly understand?

Like I said before....If that's all you want to do here, just say so...

...and I'll be on my merry way.

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