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Post by Pethead Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:33 pm

For those of us who listen to both Christian and secular music, are there any genres where you almost exclusively listen to one or the other? This doesn’t mean you never listen to both in said genre, but that you primarily do one or the other.
For me, I almost completely stick to Christian artists when it comes to black metal. I’ve heard some secular black metal, but due to the ideology of a lot of the classic secular bands I prefer to just stick to the Christian side of things. It also helps that there’s a ton of Christian black metal bands.
On the opposite side, I almost exclusively stick to the secular scene for funeral DOOOOOOOOOM. There are very few Christian artists in this subgenre, and I haven’t heard much that can stack up to the secular bands.
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Post by Seth Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:44 pm

Agree about black metal, it seems that most secular black metal has some combination of satanism, paganism, or anti-Christianity. I am sure there’s some secular black metal that’s completely unobjectionable, but I have never bothered to go digging for it and pretty much stick to Christian. As for mostly secular, operatic symphonic metal is severely lacking in the Christian sphere, so most of that I listen to is secular
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Post by StevenCressler Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:50 pm

Agree about black. For secular I guess nu metal? All subgenres I listen to at least some Christian, but nu is the biggest one where the secular stuff stands out more
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Post by Black Rider Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:56 pm

There's not much USPM in the Christian world, other than that it's fairly even and I don't listen to BM.


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Post by Pethead Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:18 am

We all know which way Kerrick goes when it comes to thrash.

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Post by StevenCressler Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:24 am

Pethead wrote:We all know which way Kerrick goes when it comes to thrash.
He goes the other way when it comes to thrash (or anything catchy)
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Post by Temple of Blood Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:58 am

it makes no difference to me
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Post by Pethead Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:09 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:it makes no difference to me
I figured you’d like your rap metal either way.
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Post by Pethead Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:10 pm

Black Rider wrote:There's not much USPM in the Christian world, other than that it's fairly and I don't listen to BM.
Well, it doesn’t listen to you, either!   Razz
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Post by Temple of Blood Mon Dec 09, 2024 1:09 pm

Pethead wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:it makes no difference to me
I figured you’d like your rap metal either way.

As long as it takes a bold, uncompromising Christian-friendly stance I'm all in
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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Mon Dec 09, 2024 1:17 pm

Black. I don't really listen to anything other than Antestor anyway, but I've never seen a secular bm band that's not somewhat satanic or blasphemous.
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Post by Kerrick Mon Dec 09, 2024 1:40 pm

StevenCressler wrote:
Pethead wrote:We all know which way Kerrick goes when it comes to thrash.
He goes the other way when it comes to thrash (or anything catchy)

Hey now!  I dig me some catchy power metal at least.   Razz  But yeah, Slayer is obviously the best in the Christian-friendly thrash category.

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:Black. I don't really listen to anything other than Antestor anyway, but I've never seen a secular bm band that's not somewhat satanic or blasphemous.

There's actually quite a bit of "safe secular" black metal out there: entire bands built around Tolkien themes, as well as historical, fantasy, nature, etc.

As for me, I've continued to gravitate more and more away from secular music - I just don't connect to it as I used to and find a lot more enjoyment and satisfaction from Christian bands.  So for example, I end up listening to very little funeral doom because it basically doesn't exist in the Christian corner.  I still listen to a handful of secular bands out of nostalgia, but haven't gone searching for any new ones in a long time.

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Post by Pethead Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:02 pm

^^I go through phases like that, but then some Christian band will say something heretical, and all of a sudden I’m cranking up some Anthrax.
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Post by Kerrick Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:05 pm

Ugh I hear ya.  Though that serves as a means to keep my music collection more humble and save my bank account haha.   Sad

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Post by Pethead Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:11 pm

You should buy every Petra album. That’ll beef up your collection.
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Post by Andreas89 Tue Dec 10, 2024 2:12 pm

There's not a subgenre that I can think of in which I favor Christian bands, although whenever a band is Christian it does get them bonus points.

As for the other way around, I love epic folk metal but there simply aren't any Christian bands playing that.
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Post by Pethead Tue Dec 10, 2024 2:21 pm

Andreas89 wrote:There's not a subgenre that I can think of in which I favor Christian bands, although whenever a band is Christian it does get them bonus points.

As for the other way around, I love epic folk metal but there simply aren't any Christian bands playing that.
That reminds me of the old comparison charts you could find in Christian book stores. 

“Do you like epic folk metal? You might like Audio Adrenaline!”
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Post by Bronze Age Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:43 pm

To be real, I consider Christian Metal to be a subgenre regardless of what it sounds like. I mostly prefer secular but Impelliteri, Theocracy, Narnia, Stryper, Savior Machine, Trinity and others have taught me it can be just as good as secular. I am just happy to have some metal that is Christian that I like.

I would also say black metal which I mostly can't stand and would not bother with a secular band but sometimes I enjoy Crimson Moonlight, Antestor and Grave Declaration.

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Post by StevenCressler Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:34 pm

Christian Metal is not a subgenre. It's a scene
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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:32 pm

If Christian metal is a subgenre, then that means every lyrical theme is a subgenre. Mythology, politics, satanism, occult, humanity, philosophy, it just doesn't work. Christianity is a lyrical theme, nothing to do with genres.
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Post by Black Rider Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:34 pm

Ol' bronze hit a nerve with the kids
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Post by Pethead Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:39 pm

I agree with the kids, actually. I’m unpredictable that way. Just when you think I’ll zig, I zag. Then when you think I’ll zag, I zog.
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Post by Seth Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:48 pm

Yeah the kids are right. If genre is determined by lyrics, then the black metal purists who screech about how “Christian black metal doesn’t exist because black metal is supposed to be evil and stuff” are right
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Post by Black Rider Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:36 pm

I get what he's saying though. There's thrash and then there's Christian thrash, it's like a sub genre.
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Post by StevenCressler Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:41 pm

Black Rider wrote:I get what he's saying though. There's thrash and then there's Christian thrash, it's like a sub genre.
It kind of is. I do get his point
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