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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Thu Oct 03, 2024 8:44 pm

I’ve only listened to SO and Dimensions. I love SO, but Dimensions is meh.
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Post by StevenCressler Thu Oct 03, 2024 10:32 pm

Have you listened to the Trilogy of Knowledge at the end of Dimensions?
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Post by StevenCressler Thu Oct 03, 2024 10:33 pm

I think they got less good with each album, however all 5 are really good to amazing.
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Post by Raegoul Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:48 am

Extractions 
Sanity
Dimensions
Gabriel
Transhuman
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Post by StevenCressler Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:37 am

Raegoul wrote:Extractions 
Sanity
Dimensions
Gabriel
Transhuman
My list exactly
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Post by Fundy Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:33 am

Of all the albums I've listened to, here are my top 3...

1.
2.
3.

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Post by TZ75 Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:03 am

StevenCressler wrote:
Raegoul wrote:Extractions 
Sanity
Dimensions
Gabriel
Transhuman
My list exactly

Mine too.
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Post by Airola Fri Oct 04, 2024 7:50 am

Extractions
Gabriel
Sanity Obscure
Dimensions
Transhuman


If Dimensions would only have Singularity and The Trilogy of Knowledge, it would probably be number 1 or at least number 2 on the list.

If Dimensions wouldn't have Singularity and The Trilogy of Knowledge, it would certainly be the worst. Transhuman is much better than most of Dimensions, but especially The Trilogy of Knowledge is so amazingly good that I can't put the album below Transhuman.


If we count the "1 of 5" etc EPs then they would be on the bottom of the list. I'd love to hear the last two batches of them though. We only got them up to "3 of 5".

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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Fri Oct 04, 2024 8:44 am

I started listening to the “of 5”s, but they sound absolutely nothing like Believer. When I go to Believer, I’m going for some thrash. Not whatever these are.
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Post by bgsully Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:20 pm

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Dimensions 
Gabriel 
Transhuman
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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:11 pm

I haven’t gotten to listen to Gabriel or Transhuman. Are they good albums?
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Post by bgsully Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:21 pm

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:I haven’t gotten to listen to Gabriel or Transhuman. Are they good albums?


My opinion: Gabriel is more in line with their early stuff; though not quite as good.
Transhuman is less thrashy and more proggy. Still good, just different.
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:39 pm

Dimensions
Sanity
Extraction
Gabriel
Transhuman

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Post by Raegoul Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:05 pm

The demo is very nice too btw.
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Post by strangerhoncho Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:19 am

Honestly, I haven't listened to Dimensions, Transhuman, or Gabriel since they each came out.  They were interesting and good, just not something I ever made time for again, so I can't rank them.  But I still love Sanity Obscure and Extraction from Mortality.  They're perfect albums to me.

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Post by Airola Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:36 pm

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:I haven’t gotten to listen to Gabriel or Transhuman. Are they good albums?

A better production would help Gabriel but it has some amazing songs and still holds out.

I recommend you to check out at least Medwton, The Need for Conflict and Focused Lethality. Amazing thrash songs all of them!
Stoned also has some amazing riffs here and there. The album has plenty of weird avantgarde moments but it's not even nearly as obtuse as Dimensions at worst was.

It doesn't really have a bad song in it although some of them are more forgettable than others. It's mostly still thrash and has many fast moments but some of the songs take a step into a post-modern alternative heavy pop metal in the vein of, say, 30 Seconds to Mars.

I love the vocals in Gabriel. They sound a bit like Destruction because of the vocals.

Transhuman goes into the "30 Seconds to Mars" direction a lot more, but it has a few thrash pieces too. Vocally it has a bit of metalcore influences too. And many of the other style songs either have a nice mood or good and catchy melodies.

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Post by Airola Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:48 pm

You can currently listen to the full album here:



Listen to that first riff on the album. It's among Believer's best for sure!

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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:49 pm

Isn’t the singer for Killswitch Engage on Gabriel? Or was it another band? (I want to say KE but it could be a different band)
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Post by Pethead Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:10 pm

I can’t rank the first three, honestly. But I find the constant slander of Dimensions around here to be troubling. It’s killer.
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Post by Airola Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:10 pm

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:Isn’t the singer for Killswitch Engage on Gabriel? Or was it another band? (I want to say KE but it could be a different band)

He sings with Kurt in one song, The Brave.
It's probably my least favorite track in the album.

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Post by Christian Thrash Rules Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:20 pm

Pethead wrote:I can’t rank the first three, honestly. But I find the constant slander of Dimensions around here to be troubling. It’s killer.
Dimensions imo just isn’t very memorable and is a little too weird for thrash. The first two are incredible though. I might put EFM at number one.
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Post by StevenCressler Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:30 pm

Airola wrote:
Christian Thrash Rules wrote:Isn’t the singer for Killswitch Engage on Gabriel? Or was it another band? (I want to say KE but it could be a different band)

He sings with Kurt in one song, The Brave.
It's probably my least favorite track in the album.
The chorus is great imo
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Post by StevenCressler Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:30 pm

Airola wrote:
Christian Thrash Rules wrote:I haven’t gotten to listen to Gabriel or Transhuman. Are they good albums?

A better production would help Gabriel but it has some amazing songs and still holds out.

I recommend you to check out at least Medwton, The Need for Conflict and Focused Lethality. Amazing thrash songs all of them!
Stoned also has some amazing riffs here and there. The album has plenty of weird avantgarde moments but it's not even nearly as obtuse as Dimensions at worst was.

It doesn't really have a bad song in it although some of them are more forgettable than others. It's mostly still thrash and has many fast moments but some of the songs take a step into a post-modern alternative heavy pop metal in the vein of, say, 30 Seconds to Mars.

I love the vocals in Gabriel. They sound a bit like Destruction because of the vocals.

Transhuman goes into the "30 Seconds to Mars" direction a lot more, but it has a few thrash pieces too. Vocally it has a bit of metalcore influences too. And many of the other style songs either have a nice mood or good and catchy melodies.
Clean Room is my favorite song on Transhuman. It's not on YouTube tho so I've only heard it twice when it came on Pandora
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Post by StevenCressler Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:33 pm

Airola wrote:The album has plenty of weird avantgarde moments but it's not even nearly as obtuse as Dimensions at worst was.
Aside from Nonsense Mediated Decay, that is
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Post by Sevenoneself Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:37 pm

Fundy wrote:Of all the albums I've listened to, here are my top 3...

1.
2.
3.

Laughing Laughing

Diddo. I've tried and tried, and I just don't enjoy them.
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