Secular hot takes

^^ agreed, although I do think Reign in Blood is overrated musically (not in terms of influence).

I think they're overrated musically overall. Can't deny the influence though.

Reign in Blood is not their best album though it might be the most influential. I always liked Show No Mercy and Seasons in the Abyss the most.

Those are probably my favorites, along with South of Heaven.

Seasons and South of Heaven are what I've listened to most. The first Living Sacrifice is sooo South of Heaven sounding.

Seasons is my favorite by a wide margin. And yep, that LS is a dead ringer for that era of Slayer.


Sorry, SSSSSSLLLLLLLAAAAAAAYYYYYYEEEEEERRRRRR!!!!!!!!! (For Kerrick)

From what I've heard Seasons is my favorite musically (War Ensemble being my favorite song) and if I'm not wrong, that one doesn't really have any songs that are blasphemous/Satanic, right? Other than Born From Fire, which is more just a story song?

Yeah, Born of Fire is the only song with questionable lyrics on Seasons.

Son of Nun wrote:Yeah, Born of Fire is the only song with questionable lyrics on Seasons.

We're lucky their best album musically is also their best lyrically

If Kerry King wasn't a cringelord we'd have a lot better lyrics in Slayer. I wish they'd let Araya write them all.

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:

seth wrote:RtL actually HAS atmosphere, unlike 72 seasons

I just think it's way too much on RTL. RTL would probably be higher on my list if it had the same feel as MOP.

1. AJFA
2. MOP
3. 72S
4. TBA
5. RTL
6. DM
7. KEA
8. HTSD
9. L
10. RL
11. St.A



































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Lol at writing Load with only initials

Son of Nun wrote:

seth wrote:72 seasons over Ride the Lightning is one heck of a hot take

He just flew into the sun.

Also, Rust in Peace is objectively Megadeth's opus.

And no, Slayer is not overrated. A lot of Christians just say that because they don't like their lyrics. I don't either, but Slayer's musical reputation is deserved.

I might be slightly biased towards 72S because it was the first Metallica album release I was a fan for. I remember hearing Lux AEterna and 72 Seasons and being super excited for the whole album to be released. It was my first time experiencing that. I still love it musically though. Yes, RIP is objectively the best MD album and it wins musically, but I also factor in lyrics which is how UA wins. And, Slayer is overrated. There are thrash bands with similar sound that are WAYYY better than Slayer. All of KK's solos are throw away whammy spam.

Sabaton sucks.

It's Riverdance with power chords behind it.

The reason I wouldn't call Slayer overrated is their atmosphere. Their riffs are great, the rhythms are great, but where they really excel is atmosphere

I thought Slayer was overrated. Then one day I was at a CD store and they had a copy of Seasons in the Abyss. I wondered if maybe I should pick it up and give them a chance. I went and listened to “War Ensemble” and the title track. I realized then that, despite my hatred of many of their lyrics and their image, they were not overrated musically.

Reign in Blood is still overrated, though, except for a few songs.

I don’t recommend Christians listen to them, but I don’t think it’s fair to call them overrated overall.

Pethead wrote:I thought Slayer was overrated. Then one day I was at a CD store and they had a copy of Seasons in the Abyss. I wondered if maybe I should pick it up and give them a chance. I went and listened to “War Ensemble” and the title track. I realized then that, despite my hatred of many of their lyrics and their image, they were not overrated musically.

Reign in Blood is still overrated, though, except for a few songs.

I don’t recommend Christians listen to them, but I don’t think it’s fair to call them overrated overall.

War Ensemble is a great song, and I also can't find anything in the lyrics to object to. Even Silent Scream has some strong language.

Pethead wrote:I thought Slayer was overrated. Then one day I was at a CD store and they had a copy of Seasons in the Abyss. I wondered if maybe I should pick it up and give them a chance. I went and listened to “War Ensemble” and the title track. I realized then that, despite my hatred of many of their lyrics and their image, they were not overrated musically.

Reign in Blood is still overrated, though, except for a few songs.

I don’t recommend Christians listen to them, but I don’t think it’s fair to call them overrated overall.

Seasons in the Abyss is easily their best album. And possibly the only album that I find a masterpiece by them.

War Ensemble is one of the best metal songs ever.

I asked Kerrick what his favorite Slayer album is.

He told me, “you can’t rank perfection.”

And then he kicked me in the shins while yelling, “SSSSSSSLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEERRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!”

Son of Nun wrote:If Kerry King wasn't a cringelord we'd have a lot better lyrics in Slayer. I wish they'd let Araya write them all.

I never got into Slayer because of the lyrics but a few years ago I listened
to the early  discography, chronologically, straight through. not sure how far
I went, at least 5 records... and I loved what I heard...

admittedly, I have never done a thorough lyrical examination and I assume
that Araya lyrics would be better because he is Catholic?...
could someone Cliff's Notes the Kerry King statement?

The one Kerry King quote I do like was when he was addressed about not clearly stating that the actions described in "Angel of Death" were wrong (even though he called them sickening in the song, but whatever) and basically he said that he shouldn't have to clarify that all those tortures are wrong in the song because everyone should know that without being told. I was surprised hearing Kerry give a quote I really liked.

Generally, the following albums are light on the antichristian lyrics:

South of Heaven
Seasons in the Abyss
Divine Intervention
Diabulos in Musica
World Painted Blood

Those might have a song or two to skip, but the balance of them is less evil.

StevenCressler wrote:The one Kerry King quote I do like was when he was addressed about not clearly stating that the actions described in "Angel of Death" were wrong (even though he called them sickening in the song, but whatever) and basically he said that he shouldn't have to clarify that all those tortures are wrong in the song because everyone should know that without being told. I was surprised hearing Kerry give a quote I really liked.

Up until six months ago saying the Holocaust was wrong was easy. Now, we're seeing people call for it again.

Black Rider wrote:

StevenCressler wrote:The one Kerry King quote I do like was when he was addressed about not clearly stating that the actions described in "Angel of Death" were wrong (even though he called them sickening in the song, but whatever) and basically he said that he shouldn't have to clarify that all those tortures are wrong in the song because everyone should know that without being told. I was surprised hearing Kerry give a quote I really liked.

Up until six months ago saying the Holocaust was wrong was easy. Now, we're seeing people call for it again.

True. The war's making anti-semitism cool in society.

Pethead wrote:Generally, the following albums are light on the antichristian lyrics:

South of Heaven
Seasons in the Abyss
Divine Intervention
Diabulos in Musica
World Painted Blood

Those might have a song or two to skip, but the balance of them is less evil.

This is what Pethead listens to when he's not jamming Behemoth.

It’s hard because I’m almost always jamming Behemoth.