Re: Secular hot takes

by StevenCressler Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:27 am

Pethead wrote:Funeral doom>melodeath

I don't know enough to know if I disagree, but I'm pretty sure I do

by Pethead Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:36 am

The only one around here that might agree with me is our benevolent overlord, Kerrick.

by Superjuice Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:41 am

Youthanasia is a weak Megadeth album. Some of these should be fast songs, but the producer convinced Dave to keep the tempos low so they could be hits. The production is middling and safe. There's no progressive moments and hardly any over-the-top musical moments or guitar exchanges.

There was nothing going on in metal when it came out at the time and it could have been the album to bring a resurgence, but it is a flat record with it just decides to dwell in the mushy middle with no sharp edges.

You might listen to it now and think its not that bad, but metal needed an adrenaline shot in the arm at the time and this did not deliver the goods. It's a big block of moldy cheddar.

by Black Rider Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:45 pm

If you're having trouble sleeping maybe.

by Pethead Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:48 pm

I have severe sleep apnea and restless legs. Gotta toss on that sweet funeral DOOOOOOOM to help.

by StevenCressler Sun May 05, 2024 6:47 pm

I will note that I no longer agree with my comments about ranking Kill 'Em All lower than 72 Seasons. Or even the Black Album for that matter.

by Superjuice Sun May 05, 2024 9:47 pm

I love a good retraction.

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by Christian Thrash Rules Tue May 07, 2024 12:42 pm

StevenCressler wrote:
seth wrote:Agree that SOAD is pretty much the gold standard of nu-metal. Their quirkiness on some songs (like BYOB) reminds me of Tourniquet in a way, despite the difference in style
Yeah, I'd call that their best song (even though it isn't their quirkiest by any means lol), though Toxicity is easily their best album. Thankfully it's also the only one without any f-bombs. They're my best example of "I still listen to this, but I'd listen a lot more if the lyrics were cleaner." I don't mind the language on BYOB much though, as they're discussing a serious issue. But Toxicity doesn't have too much of that (though I still usually don't listen to Bounce, at least not more than the intro).

The four levels of objecting to lyrical content and loving the music are
"I object to some of the lyrics, but not really enough to make me listen less" (Best example: Metallica)
"Some songs I'll avoid, but most are completely fine" (Megadeth)
Already explained level three, which is SOAD (side note, I do really like bands like SOAD and Tourniquet that do creative things.)
And level four would be Slayer, which is "I love the music, but I mainly avoid listening due to the lyrical content."

I agree with everything said about SOAD. Wonder what you think their quirkiest song is? Radio/Video is up there imo. But here's my version of the four levels listed here.
"I disagree with some lyrics, but not a whole lot" or "they have some cussing, but very rarely more than one song an album" (Metallica)
"Some songs are bad lyrics but the rest are completely fine" or "early stuff is no, newer stuff is much better" (Megadeth)
"Great music, lyrics aren't super super bad, WAY too much swearing" (SOAD, RATM)
"Good music, bad message and/or anti-christian lyrics" (Slayer, Ghost(not metal), Mayhem(not good music though lol))

by Christian Thrash Rules Tue May 07, 2024 12:43 pm

Here's a hot take:
1. ..And Justice For All
2. Master Of Puppets
3. 72 Seasons
Very Happy

by seth Tue May 07, 2024 12:48 pm

72 seasons over Ride the Lightning is one heck of a hot take

by Christian Thrash Rules Tue May 07, 2024 12:53 pm

seth wrote:72 seasons over Ride the Lightning is one heck of a hot take

I enjoy RTL but I can't seem to click with the atmosphere.

by seth Tue May 07, 2024 12:55 pm

RtL actually HAS atmosphere, unlike 72 seasons

by Christian Thrash Rules Tue May 07, 2024 12:59 pm

seth wrote:RtL actually HAS atmosphere, unlike 72 seasons

I just think it's way too much on RTL. RTL would probably be higher on my list if it had the same feel as MOP.

1. AJFA
2. MOP
3. 72S
4. TBA
5. RTL
6. DM
7. KEA
8. HTSD
9. L
10. RL
11. St.A

99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999. Lulu

by Christian Thrash Rules Tue May 07, 2024 1:03 pm

Here's some more hot takes. United Abominations is the best Megadeth album Very Happy

. Slayer is way overrated. St. Anger is not too far gone to save(please tell me someone actually understands that).

by Christian Thrash Rules Tue May 07, 2024 1:06 pm

This isn't secular but is my opinion on The Gift Of Music considered a hot take? I've seen multiple people defend it and multiple people hate on it.

by StevenCressler Tue May 07, 2024 2:03 pm

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:Here's some more hot takes. United Abominations is the best Megadeth album . Slayer is way overrated. St. Anger is not too far gone to save(please tell me someone actually understands that).

I just noticed your signature, it's hilarious

UA is great, but not better than RiP. Slayer isn't overrated musically IMO, but I like them less than most due to lyrics. And yes, St. Anger has potential to be much better (I'm assuming what you said was a reference to the song, right?)

by Christian Thrash Rules Tue May 07, 2024 2:07 pm

StevenCressler wrote:
Christian Thrash Rules wrote:Here's some more hot takes. United Abominations is the best Megadeth album . Slayer is way overrated. St. Anger is not too far gone to save(please tell me someone actually understands that).
I just noticed your signature, it's hilarious

UA is great, but not better than RiP. Slayer isn't overrated musically IMO, but I like them less than most due to lyrics. And yes, St. Anger has potential to be much better (I'm assuming what you said was a reference to the song, right?)

Me saying St. Anger is not TOO FAR GONE TO SAVE is a reference to Too Far Gone? from 72S. Here's where I got my sig from: https://open.spotify.com/track/3yJMVqIc11dtKmqPWTV9Ck?si=e7761e4babb34c20

by StevenCressler Tue May 07, 2024 2:30 pm

Christian Thrash Rules wrote:
StevenCressler wrote:
Christian Thrash Rules wrote:Here's some more hot takes. United Abominations is the best Megadeth album . Slayer is way overrated. St. Anger is not too far gone to save(please tell me someone actually understands that).
I just noticed your signature, it's hilarious

UA is great, but not better than RiP. Slayer isn't overrated musically IMO, but I like them less than most due to lyrics. And yes, St. Anger has potential to be much better (I'm assuming what you said was a reference to the song, right?)
Me saying St. Anger is not TOO FAR GONE TO SAVE is a reference to Too Far Gone? from 72S. Here's where I got my sig from: https://open.spotify.com/track/3yJMVqIc11dtKmqPWTV9Ck?si=e7761e4babb34c20

Yeah that's the song I meant

by Christian Thrash Rules Tue May 07, 2024 2:34 pm

StevenCressler wrote:
Christian Thrash Rules wrote:
StevenCressler wrote:
Christian Thrash Rules wrote:Here's some more hot takes. United Abominations is the best Megadeth album . Slayer is way overrated. St. Anger is not too far gone to save(please tell me someone actually understands that).
I just noticed your signature, it's hilarious

UA is great, but not better than RiP. Slayer isn't overrated musically IMO, but I like them less than most due to lyrics. And yes, St. Anger has potential to be much better (I'm assuming what you said was a reference to the song, right?)
Me saying St. Anger is not TOO FAR GONE TO SAVE is a reference to Too Far Gone? from 72S. Here's where I got my sig from: https://open.spotify.com/track/3yJMVqIc11dtKmqPWTV9Ck?si=e7761e4babb34c20
Yeah that's the song I meant

Ok. Also if you like that here's a playlist I made that is his best comedy. He's pretty clean, and actually he's Catholic I think. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2rGoCQQgquTZCM5jKzCWl9?si=d0002fd66e16480b

by MagnusPrime Tue May 07, 2024 2:43 pm

The song "Too Far Gone?" is from the perspective of the St. Anger album. Literally everyone knows this.

by StevenCressler Tue May 07, 2024 2:55 pm

MagnusPrime wrote:The song "Too Far Gone?" is from the perspective of the St. Anger album. Literally everyone knows this.

That feels like a lyrical theme that would be on St. Anger lol.

by Black Rider Tue May 07, 2024 3:21 pm

UA better than RiP? You need a nap.

by Christian Thrash Rules Tue May 07, 2024 3:44 pm

Black Rider wrote:UA better than RiP? You need a nap.

RIP is a little better musically but when lyrics are added in UA wins

by Superjuice Tue May 07, 2024 4:27 pm

It's a lot better than Youthanasia anyway.

by Son of Nun Tue May 07, 2024 9:13 pm

seth wrote:72 seasons over Ride the Lightning is one heck of a hot take

He just flew into the sun.

Also, Rust in Peace is objectively Megadeth's opus.

And no, Slayer is not overrated. A lot of Christians just say that because they don't like their lyrics. I don't either, but Slayer's musical reputation is deserved.

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