Melodic Thrash

by Pethead Sat Apr 29, 2023 4:37 pm

What are some Christian melodic thrash albums you know? Let’s list them.

I’m thinking melodic thrash usually means melodic vocals, but if you have an album that brings a lot of melody in another way, that’s fine too.

I’ll start.

Tourniquet: Several could fit, but I especially think of Stop the Bleeding and Where Moth and Rust Destroy
Deliverance: first 2
Thresher: Here I Am
Mosh-Pit Justice: all
Temple of Blood: both
Antithesis: first 2
Boarders: both
Mad Dragzter: Master of Space and Time
Step Cousin: The Evolution Religion
Teramaze: Doxology
Red Lamb: s/t

Some of these are debatable, but there you go.

by TZ75 Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:59 pm

I thought “Speed Metal” was the melodic twin brother of Thrash.

Deliverance was the king of that style.

by Superjuice Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:45 pm

Oh boy, here we go...

Can of worms opened. You just said the genre term that shall not be named.

Pandora's Box here we come. GENRE NAZIS ASSEMBLLLLE!!!!

by TZ75 Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:56 pm

Did I just unknowingly step in a pile a poo?

I’m just saying what I always heard. I don’t care enough about nitpicky genre definitions. I won’t lose any sleep over it. LOL

But if you try to tell me Disturbed, Nickelback or Linkin Park are real metal, I’m drawing the line!

by TZ75 Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:12 pm

Is “hybrid heavy rock” or “hard-rock country” genres?

by Pethead Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:13 pm

For me, while the terms are sometimes used interchangeably, I think of speed metal as having more melodic riffs, while thrash is more chromatic in its riffing.

by Pethead Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:17 pm

But if someone prefers other genre pronouns, I don’t wanna be politically incorrect or intolerant.

by TZ75 Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:21 pm

Pethead wrote:For me, while the terms are sometimes used interchangeably, I think of speed metal as having more melodic riffs, while thrash is more chromatic in its riffing.

Also thrash is more influenced by early punk and hardcore (less slick). It also tends to be played a bit looser like Motörhead. But every band has different standards. Kill ‘Em All by Metallica and Megadeth’s Killing is My Business have a big punk influence mixed with NWOBHM.

Speed Metal seemed to mix Maiden, Priest and Queensryche vocals with fast rhythm playing.

by TZ75 Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:31 pm

Many first wave thrash bands were influenced by The Misfits, the Dead Boys and Discharge. Plus Motörhead!

Lots of gruff shouting and barking for vocals. A little bit of crudely attempted singing. Flotsam and Anthrax were more “speed metal”.

by magnus_prime Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:32 pm

I've always viewed speed metal as the more consistently faster/uptempo cousin to USPM. Usually more on the melodic side, with traditional/power metal style vocals.

Thrash is more "street" (owing more to hardcore punk) and it's riffing and style is generally more "brutal" or pummeling in nature. More abrasive than speed metal.

Just my two cents.

by TZ75 Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:38 pm

MagnusPrime wrote:I've always viewed speed metal as the more consistently faster/uptempo cousin to USPM. Usually more on the melodic side, with traditional/power metal style vocals.

Thrash is more "street" (owing more to hardcore punk) and it's riffing and style is generally more "brutal" or pummeling in nature. More abrasive than speed metal.

Just my two cents.

Well said!

I completely agree with you.

by Dustofyears Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:15 am

Never really understood the difference between speed metal and thrash. Thrash is metal at a fast pace... So "Speed Metal" right...

What would we call Bride's first album? Have always thought if anything could be classified as speed metal it might be that album, being that it's at times slightly faster than normal NWOBHM, and melodic lead work and guitar harmony often moves in warp speed, it's got a raw production but not it's quite thrash, therefore I figure it's gotta be speed metal...

by WildWorld Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:35 am

There are bands who are Speed Metal but arent thrash (ie, Racer X, Raven, Liege Lord, arguably Impelliterri would fit that as well).

by TZ75 Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:27 am

WildWorld wrote:There are bands who are Speed Metal but arent thrash (ie, Racer X, Raven, Liege Lord, arguably Impelliterri would fit that as well).

I’m a big Racer X fan and I never once viewed them as speed metal. Fast solos are not what speed metal is. Racer X is basically Judas Priest mixed with over the top neoclassical shredding.

by alldatndensum Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:35 am

I don't mind the music of thrash. I would love to hear someone actually do something thrash with less gutteral vocals. I might like more thrash that way.

by Dustofyears Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:59 am

alldatndensum wrote:I don'tind the music of thrash. I would love to hear someone actually do something thrash with less gutteral vocals. I might like more thrash that way.

But most of it is done without gutteral vocals... that's why I get turned of most of it. I like the music but it is ruined by either a high pitched nasally cat sound or clean high type vocals... there's more of that than say Sepultura or seventh angel type vox and the like in the genre of thrash... wouldn't you agree?

by Temple of Blood Mon May 01, 2023 9:07 am

Holy Sceptre
Have Mercy
Tonka
Betrayer
Boarders
Deathless
Antithesis
Sacredfice
Embryo Chrysalis
Weeping Prophet

by Kerrick Mon May 01, 2023 12:18 pm

^I was going to mention Tonka; good pick!

by Roebuckryan Mon May 01, 2023 7:34 pm

In Motivik, we mix it up with thrash and melody.

https://youtu.be/_V6FPSG2Q_Y

by Fundy Tue May 02, 2023 2:29 am

Love the two new songs from Motivik, they fill the Tourniquet gap for me.

by Temple of Blood Tue May 02, 2023 10:59 am

Adorned Graves
Step Cousin
Flood
Final Assault
Vengeance
Combat Faith
Towne Cryer
Chained
Judgment
Heirborne

by Kerrick Tue May 02, 2023 12:00 pm

TOB, would you consider Kenn Nardi's solo stuff to be melodic thrash?

by Temple of Blood Tue May 02, 2023 12:45 pm

Kerrick wrote:TOB, would you consider Kenn Nardi's solo stuff to be melodic thrash?

Some of it would. I would need to listen to those albums again to say overall if I agree with that label. I don't remember more than a few songs being very thrashy. Not as thrashy as Anacrusis IMHO.

by Kerrick Tue May 02, 2023 12:59 pm

Gotcha, that makes sense. I do really enjoy his stuff though it's difficult for me categorize it by genre. It's a bit bi-polar I suppose: oscillating between pretty aggressive thrashy stuff to more melodic proggy stuff.

by Temple of Blood Tue May 02, 2023 1:13 pm

I personally would call it more "progressive" than "thrashy" IIRC

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