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Post by Sevenoneself Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:02 am

Are there standards for describing vocals that are growled/yelled/shrieked? I'm realizing that I'm often at a loss to describe the vocal style of bands.
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Post by Temple of Blood Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:40 am

A lot of options but no real "standards"
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Post by Pethead Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:48 am

I usually say:

Black metal: shrieks 
Death metal: growls 
Core: screamed
Thrash: a mix, but a lot of thrash is either sung (Anthrax) or shouted (Slayer)
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Post by Temple of Blood Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:52 am

Pethead wrote:I usually say:

Black metal: shrieks 
Death metal: growls 
Core: screamed
Thrash: a mix, but a lot of thrash is either sung (Anthrax) or shouted (Slayer)

I think this is it.

You might encounter "pig squeels" as well, but no decent music uses that so it's hardly worth mentioning.
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Post by Pethead Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:55 am

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Pethead wrote:I usually say:

Black metal: shrieks 
Death metal: growls 
Core: screamed
Thrash: a mix, but a lot of thrash is either sung (Anthrax) or shouted (Slayer)

I think this is it.

You might encounter "pig squeels" as well, but no decent music uses that so it's hardly worth mentioning.
Pig squeals=me not taking the music seriously.
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Post by eatbugs Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:17 am

No real standards.  Now that I think about it, I will usually include the musical genre in the description, like "death metal growls."

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Post by Sevenoneself Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:26 am

Yeah, I was just listening to Sorrowstorm-Triune Eminince, and was trying to locate the genre b/c it had grows/shrieks and clean singing. So I searched the CMR for the thread on it, and saw that guys like Kerrick and Crimson were discussing how the clean vocals were a departure from the black metal genre, and most didn't care for it as much. So...if my understanding of everything is correct, I would describe that album as "black metal with some clean vocals".
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Post by Black Rider Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:09 am

There's cookie monster drinking battery acid or cookie monster swallowing razor blades and that's the standard.
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Post by Frozen Fire Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:30 pm

There is more variety within these styles than the stereotypes, hence "no real standards," but this is how I think of them:

I think it is fine to say "shriek" for black metal but I usually refer to it as a "rasp" - something with more bite than death metal vocals. There are black metal vocalists who really do a lot of shrieking and I'm not a fan (classic example - the lead singer of Frost Like Ashes).

For death metal I will describe them as "growled" and I hear others use "grunt" or "guttural." As some mentioned above, some death metal vocals are "pig squeals" (sounds like you'd expect) or "toilet bowl" vocals (indecipherable gurgling) which I avoid like the shrieked black metal vocals I mentioned.
 

This track by Crowned in Sorrow features clean vocals, a more classic, brutal death metal growl, and in the middle from 3:48-4:29 features a classic higher pitched black metal vocal from guest vocalist DC Mills.



Azahel Frost from Frost Like Ashes using a "shrieking" style which I am not a fan of:

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Post by Sevenoneself Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:19 pm

Black Rider wrote:There's cookie monster drinking battery acid or cookie monster swallowing razor blades and that's the standard.

lol! lol!
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Post by Sevenoneself Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:20 pm

Frozen Fire wrote:There is more variety within these styles than the stereotypes, hence "no real standards," but this is how I think of them:

I think it is fine to say "shriek" for black metal but I usually refer to it as a "rasp" - something with more bite than death metal vocals. There are black metal vocalists who really do a lot of shrieking and I'm not a fan (classic example - the lead singer of Frost Like Ashes).

For death metal I will describe them as "growled" and I hear others use "grunt" or "guttural." As some mentioned above, some death metal vocals are "pig squeals" (sounds like you'd expect) or "toilet bowl" vocals (indecipherable gurgling) which I avoid like the shrieked black metal vocals I mentioned.
 

This is good. Thanks. It gives me a few more adjectives to describe these vocals!
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Post by CrimsonWarrior Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:17 pm

There's also what I would call "gruff talking" which is how I categorize the majority of the vocals in Mortification albums EnVision through Relentless (and perhaps beyond...haven't made it any farther yet). I'm getting pretty tired of it lol.
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