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Post by Contrarian Deist Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:17 pm

In our current predicament of globalist NWO totalitarian take over, each political wing has tried to identify what the methodology being used is, the goal is, and what's really going on.
On the right you have people blaming Marxism alone and claiming the NWO to be communism, on the left you have people blaming capitalism alone and claiming the NWO fascist.
The reality is a complicated mix.
The NWO totalitarians are using a complex mix of monopoly/crony capitalism in the economic sense, but using social marxism to divide and conquer the masses.
Their goal is neither fascism nor communism, but something new, something that is a combo(which Orwell identified in his book 1984 as INGSOC, the big brother party...one of its leaders tells our protagonist Winston Smith why communism and fascism and theocracy failed in being only partial controls of the people and how INGSOC is something new and kinda a combo of all of them...hence how and why it us able to have ABSOLUTE control over the masses...right down to collective and individual mind control and observalance). Really I believe the NWO are willfully using Orwells warning as a guidebook.
If you read crony capitalists writings and/or Marx you see that monopoly/crony capitalism and communism are one in the same beast. Marx laid it out actually, he said that a capitalist society will turn into monopoly and crony capitalism/fascism(which is after all the same thing as communism....control of the means of production/ distribution by the state/party and destruction of the ladder climbing or upwards and downwards mobility of the middle classes and small businesses so you only have the state monopoly on business or economy or means of production/distribution...a few super powerful and wealthy at the top and everyone else equally poor serfs/slaves...and massive brainwashing of the masses by propaganda and tech and other means...mind control. Both of which are being done right now on a massive level by the NWO)
What is the antidote to this?
I believe it is a combo of international civic/economic nationalism characterized by free market capitalism or classical liberal economies and/or social Democratic(ie. Mixed economies)economies(the two both have their positives and negatives but both are balanced ideas that I think each free country/culture can choose which model they prefer..,by free vote of all citizens, and over time each will show itself better or worse than the other...to slight degrees...or perhaps both will show themselves as equally superior to all other models in different ways. I lean myself towards classical liberal or libertarian free market but with Geolibertarian principles...inspired by Georgism and by Thomas Paines writings particularly the principles found in *agrarian justice*), and social libertarianism and individualism(the primacy of the individuals inalienable God/nature derived rights and individual civil liberties....with collectives also important...but secondary)
If we can somehow inform the majority of what's really going on, how the NWO are using monopoly/crony capitalism and social marxism in equal measures as a manipulative means of divide and conquer control and the mechanisms of mkultra mind control used to brainwash us all on a global level, and why and how we as a species must...as an imperative combines those principles I spoke of ...the economic, social, and political models I laid out(which i would add constitutional secular republicanism over monarchy/constitutional monarchism, monopoly/crony capitalism as well as marxist communism and Marxist socialism, and theocracy, and other models)...if we can wake the masses up and get them on board with these principles..we may be able to find a stable, long lasting balance and turn back the tsunami of the NWO and of the errors of history.
Though we may need to arm up and fight them for awhile(this MAY or MAY NOT be absolutely neccesarily...as there ARE factions and elements within elite circles that are pro humanity and pro liberty and pro justice and anti-nwo totalitarianism which are playing chess against them and may defeat them enough so that we the people are able to reform our world for the better..though never to be perfect...perfectionism or utopianism always turn into dystopia and totalitarianism...and in fact the NWO know this and hence why they use utopian and perfectabalist rhetoric to do and manipulate and control us with....people must wake up to the reality that a perfect utopia is unnecessary, unattainable, and in fact not desirable....unless we want to forfeit freedom for borg like collective mind...which is a frightening ideal).

Anyways, just wanted to put this all out there for provoking thought and generating discussion, and to reveal what I believe their(NWO globalists) methods and agendas are, and what or how I believe we can defeat them and forge a better future,...if we can come to such enlightenment ourselves and convince a critical mass(majority or at least large minority) of the population of the world quickly enough, and why I believe this to be of utmost importance,
To liberty
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For humanity...

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:03 am

I think most people, deep down, know that what's being forced upon them is "unnatural". Like a shirt that doesn't fit right. They're being "peer-pressured" into buying these "shirts" that are "all the rage", even though they do not fit, and make the wearer look like an idiot.

The purpose of modern mainstream media is to put forth the illusion that we're outnumbered and that it's hopeless to resist. The only people that seem to be gobbling that narrative up are the ones already fully indoctrinated with globalist clap-trap nonsense. The enemies of the western world simply do not have the actual numbers to accomplish things without subversion and fraud, the insane amount of which that had to occur to put Biden "over the top" is just more evidence of this.

I think we're in the process of seeing this unnatural intrusion coming to an end. The leftist indoctrination used by the elites didn't "infect" near enough people to accomplish their goals. We've been observing a four-year tantrum against Trump (and anybody similar across the globe) in response. They just can't believe we had the audacity to reject their lunacy.

Anyway I hope this made sense. I'm really tired! geek

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Post by ThomasEversole Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:55 pm

"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the other forms of government that are even worse."

Churchill said something akin to that, though he may have been quoting someone else. I like Jordan Petersons spin on it as well (his debate with Zizek),

"Capitalism is the worst form of economy, except for the other forms of economy which are even worse."

I think a lot of level headed people understand that democracy/capitalism is the best a population currently has, but its far from being a great and satisfying experience for everyone. That said, I'm really not much of an economist myself. I'm reluctant to be critical or garbage collect our current system (which wouldn't be hard to do), because I really don't have any better ideas to propose.

The only thing I think I could really add here is I'm cautious of gaslighting and stereotyping. ie: either party member has a bill/proposal/idea and then someone else knee jerk labels it as a "________" talking point and dismisses it without further review.

I'm certainly not a Marxist. I can't say I know a whole lot about it, but back to mentioning Zizek, he actually made some good points about it, while recognizing its obvious flaws. (I'm objective, so I could understand he made good point, instead of some impulsive "Ew! Marxism! No! I was told that was bad!" without actually being able to convey (apart from the obvious) why I object to it.

I think by the time someone takes the best of "communisms", the best of "democracies", the best of "economies", by the time those ingredients are baked, the finished recipe may not resemble much of anything put into it.

...but regardless of the form, if there are swamp creatures (career power mongrels), there will always be more for them, less for the people.
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Post by Contrarian Deist Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:02 pm

UltraMagnus wrote:I think most people, deep down, know that what's being forced upon them is "unnatural". Like a shirt that doesn't fit right. They're being "peer-pressured" into buying these "shirts" that are "all the rage", even though they do not fit, and make the wearer look like an idiot.

The purpose of modern mainstream media is to put forth the illusion that we're outnumbered and that it's hopeless to resist. The only people that seem to be gobbling that narrative up are the ones already fully indoctrinated with globalist clap-trap nonsense. The enemies of the western world simply do not have the actual numbers to accomplish things without subversion and fraud, the insane amount of which that had to occur to put Biden "over the top" is just more evidence of this.

I think we're in the process of seeing this unnatural intrusion coming to an end. The leftist indoctrination used by the elites didn't "infect" near enough people to accomplish their goals. We've been observing a four-year tantrum against Trump (and anybody similar across the globe) in response. They just can't believe we had the audacity to reject their lunacy.

Anyway I hope this made sense. I'm really tired! geek

Yes it did, and thanks for sharing your thoughts on it.

I agree.
Though I think its past the point of being just about *wings* politics(left vs right).
Like I said the NWO and their puppet elites are actually fascists...ie. *monopoly/crony capitalists* economically, they are using social/cultural marxism as a means of divide and conquer of the masses. All the major monopoly and crony capitalist corporations and CEOs are helping push marxism in the social/cultural spheres, but they're still economically monopoly/crony capitalists.
It's(the NWO) is actually a perverse hybridization of fascism(economically) and marxism(socially/culturally), it's a whole new ball game and system that is simply put totalitarianism undefinable. But it is very similar the INGSOC party in 1984(except INGSOC was only the western axis ruling party...not a global one world govt like the NWO is. In the book the world was divided into 3 major regions. The NWO INGSOC is global).
Also left and right, liberal and conservative have mostly lost their objective original meanings, as over the last century every 10-25 years they have changed hands so many times, and over time to now ...now the modern right(especially in the Trump *conservatarian nationalist* era are actually the old classical liberals and libertarians calling themselves right wing and conservative ...but by classical conservative standards and the old right...they in the past would call it liberalism and centrism. The mainstream liberals are now illiberal *progressivists* or far left neomarxists...though there are modern classical liberals who arw using that term properly like the Dave Rubins...and others...of the world and there are libertarian leftists like the Tim Pools of the world who are resisting and calling out both the monopoly/crony capitalism as well as the neomarxism).
But yeah these terms have by and large lost their original objective meanings.
Now it is really a war/battle between those who believe in liberty and constitutionalism(libertarian right, libertarian center, and libertarian left, but *libertarianism* nonetheless) vs authoritarianism and totalitarianism(whether from monopoly/crony capitalism or from marxism/communism/socialism)....which these days the two things are not opposites but rather two sides of the same coin....in bed together...the same beast.
While I currently ally mainly with the conservatarian center right...I remain aware that conservatism and the right in the past have done similar orwellisn totalitarian things that the modern left are now dooing and that they if unrestrained and get too much power again could once again become like they were in the past and like the left is today.
On the sociopolitical/social/pop cultural front the marxist and progressivist left are currently the bigger threat...however on the economic front...the monopoly/crony capitalists are(and as I said ...the fascists and the communists have married and become one in the same beast in order to confuse us, mind control us, and set us against each other..,divide and conquer us based on now defunct false binaries).

As far as the MSM goes, agree 100%. Which is why I personally stopped watching and reading and listening to any MSM(on the legacy establishment left and the legacy establishment right...such as Fox- though fox still has a couple good, patriotic, red pulled commentators like Hannity and Tucker...who will either be forced to submit soon...or forced to lose their jobs soon). I only rely on independent/alternative media and commentators and thinkers- mostly of the conservatarian variety but also a few classical liberal ones, a few classical centrist ones(not the modern centrism...because by and large modern centrism has been pushed so far left.,,the Overton window pushes so far left that anyone/thing slightly right of progressivism/social democrat..,the new center, are accused of being *far right* and literal nazism and white/male supremacist, fill in the blankaphobic, etc) and even 1 or 2 libertarian leftists like Tim Pool( I frequent his channel on YouTube for example). But regardless it has to be independent and alternative or I will pay zero attention to it now.
And though ALOT of people are sadly still relying on MSM- either establishment legacy left msm or establishment legacy right media, at the same time there is a growing mass exodus of people waking up and abandoning both...that gives me hope(what dashes that hope is that the platforms most of these independent sources/media/commentators are on are run by the technocrats(who are a big part of the NWO) on YouTube and facebook,google, etc and they are increasingly shadow banning and deleting their material and outright banning entire channels and websites(YouTube just announced that they are going to more aggressively deleting, shadowbanning and if they must...outright banning entire channels.,,that say the U.S. election was stolen and there was widespread voter fraud, this is a scary move. Though many of these people have begun moving themselves and their content to alternative platforms that actually believe in free speech(but how long before they crack down on and ban alternative platforms alltogether). The ministry of truth and ministry of love are making big moves against the truth media/commentators and community.

We must fight like we never have before or risk losing everything right quick.
As Alex Jones says- the answer to 1984 is 1776!


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Post by Contrarian Deist Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:27 pm

ThomasEversole wrote:"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the other forms of government that are even worse."

Churchill said something akin to that, though he may have been quoting someone else. I like Jordan Petersons spin on it as well (his debate with Zizek),

"Capitalism is the worst form of economy, except for the other forms of economy which are even worse."

I think a lot of level headed people understand that democracy/capitalism is the best a population currently has, but its far from being a great and satisfying experience for everyone. That said, I'm really not much of an economist myself. I'm reluctant to be critical or garbage collect our current system (which wouldn't be hard to do), because I really don't have any better ideas to propose.

The only thing I think I could really add here is I'm cautious of gaslighting and stereotyping. ie: either party member has a bill/proposal/idea and then someone else knee jerk labels it as a "________" talking point and dismisses it without further review.

I'm certainly not a Marxist. I can't say I know a whole lot about it, but back to mentioning Zizek, he actually made some good points about it, while recognizing its obvious flaws. (I'm objective, so I could understand he made good point, instead of some impulsive "Ew! Marxism! No! I was told that was bad!" without actually being able to convey (apart from the obvious) why I object to it.

I think by the time someone takes the best of "communisms", the best of "democracies", the best of "economies", by the time those ingredients are baked, the finished recipe may not resemble much of anything put into it.

...but regardless of the form, if there are swamp creatures (career power mongrels), there will always be more for them, less for the people.

Well stated. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Oh....and love me the great intellectual and freedom fighter Professor Jordan Peterson .

I believe the antidote to all this is for the international populations of every country to demand constitutional republics for themselves and civic nationalism...and in those parameters a classical liberal/libertarian form of free market capitalism with limited but strong regulations against monopoly/crony capitalism and in the other direction...against marxism as well. And a legal and social/cultural/pop cultural system that is inclined towards libertarian first principles(not libertarian as in the now corrupted and sometimes inverted *Libertarian PARTY/ies* but libertarian in the sense of enlightenment principles based in the primacy of the individual over collectives...though collectives have their place...just not before or above individuals, and in terms of the original philosophical idea of libertarianism as the importance of freewill and sociopolitical and cultural freedom of thought/concience/belief/opinion and of speech/expression and of association/affiliation and of assembly and peaceful protest and dissent and freedom of movement within borders and of course travel abroad with reasoned regulations and also LEGAL immigration limited bur allowed within merit system and a limited amount also for humanitarian purposes. This encompasses the first principles of both the libertarian right/conservatarianism and of the libertarian left and the libertarian center- like myself, fundamental principles all 3 agree upon).
And of course cooperation and diplomacy between each autonomous nation/country/culture...internationalism but not globalism....cross cultural tolerance but not the disaster that has been extreme cultural relativism/multiculturalism(the idea all cultures are equally morally valid..,,they arw different and have different degrees of validity within a ethical enlightenment philosophical framework, none being perfect and few being completely imperfect).
As Alex Jones says the answer to 1984 is 1776, the world needs to recognize the importance of and the principled philosophical framework superiority of the enlightenment and of the original American revolution and emulate these to the best of their abilities(and America to needs ti get back to the founders ideals or principles and which they framed the declaration of independence and constitution on...which btw every nation doesnt even need to exactly frame their nations the EXACT same way.....but ALL should read and implement the first principles of one particular unsung American founding father genius whose writings inspired the revolution....Thomas Paine...read the crisis, common sense, rights of man, age of reason, agrarian justice, etc....and frame their nations more or less based on the first principles of Paines writings....particularly his early writings...the spirit if 1776 was most strongly forged by the principles and the pen of Tom Paine).

But the populations of the world need first to stop submitting to INGSOC...the NWO globalists and stand up and be counted and fight for this future..,which is in our grasp...there is still time and opportunity to defeat the NWO cabal...but the time and opportunity is quickly closing, we must act immediately....


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