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Post by Galations6.7 on Sun May 21, 2017 3:05 pm

Troublezone wrote:There is two Jimmy and Eric Clayton videos. I haven't seen either..   

Which one has the announcement? As far as Facebook... i don't use it, so I would never have known that way.

The first Eric Clayton video mentions it. I haven't seen the second Eric Clayton video
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Post by Troublezone on Sun May 21, 2017 4:29 pm

Galations6.7 wrote:
Troublezone wrote:There is two Jimmy and Eric Clayton videos. I haven't seen either..   

Which one has the announcement? As far as Facebook... i don't use it, so I would never have known that way.

The first Eric Clayton video mentions it. I haven't seen the second Eric Clayton vide


I'll check it out. Thanks
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Post by average joe on Sun May 21, 2017 6:40 pm

What is the link to the Facebook live video with Chaffin?

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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Tue May 23, 2017 12:18 pm

Oh, I just saw the Eric Clayton video. It's true, he mentions Minier at the begining of the video.
Jimmy released three videos at once on his youtube channel, though he is not too active on it.
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Post by average joe on Tue May 23, 2017 7:47 pm

Can't find the Facebook live video with Chaffin.

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Post by metaldude on Thu May 25, 2017 9:26 am

Important update for the backers.

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Post by metaldude on Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:25 pm

I was surprised to see my t-shirt had arrived today. An unplanned Christmas gift... pretty cool!   Thumbs up
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Post by New Creation on Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:36 am

I got the download last night but haven't made time to listen yet!
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Post by metaldude on Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:19 am

New Creation wrote:I got the download last night but haven't made time to listen yet!

Same here. I had given up on seeing this album before next year. It's a pleasant surprise.
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Post by Sir Shred A Lot on Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:59 pm

Listened to the whole album once. It's good. Might be my favorite since Stay of Execution. Need to listen a few more times. Sort of a downer that it's only 31 minutes of music - by far their shortest. It seems like they needed at least another song or two to make it a true "full-length" album.

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Post by Temple of Blood on Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:19 am

Where is it available?  This will be the first Deliverance album I have bought in a LONG time.  Who is on drums and lead guitar?

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Post by Tombie on Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:12 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:Where is it available?  This will be the first Deliverance album I have bought in a LONG time.  Who is on drums and lead guitar?
Jim Chaffin (The Crucified) on drums and Glen Rogers does most lead guitars with Greg Minier lending some leads as well.
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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:22 am

ToB, it will be available to the public around february, I guess.

Tombie, I would add a great work by Jim Chaffin, btw.

The only annoying thing is the vocal effects used on chorus of the title track and the Black Hand song. (I mean, it is an artificial effect, right?)
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Post by Wigeon on Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:57 am

I got the new album via download this weekend. It is everything they said it would be - fast, thrashy, heavy, aggressive, a true "return to form". That being said, I find it boring and hard to get into. To me, it sounds like they took song candidates from "What a Joke" that didn't make the cut, and put them on a new album almost 30 years later with better musicians. Nothing really innovative, emotional, melodic or impressive. Looking back now, I personally prefer the direction Jimmy took with Learn and River Disturbance. All that being said, the production is really good, the guitars sound great, solos are cool, bass and drums are awesome sounding but overall it's just an average thrash album for me. And it is way too short, clocking in at just around 32 minutes with 8 short songs. This will most likely be my last crowd funding participation. Between this, and waiting for ever for the new Tourniquet since pitching in for it (with it's vocals still unknown), I'm done with it unless there's an effort to raise money for a new Gary Lenaire/Guy Ritter effort or Betrayal reunion. Gary Lenaire somehow managed to release a new album that is stellar in my opinion (Fell Sirens to the Sea is an absolute masterpiece of a song) without resorting to crowd funding.
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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:55 pm

Well, if you enjoy Learn and River Disturbance, this album is not for you. Look forward for Eraserhead, that will be your thing. Jimmy stated this several times.

That said, I don't see the similarities of this album with WaJ at all.
The only song that reminds me old Deliverance is the title track which has its inicial riff too similar to the song Entombed from Stay of Execution.
Besides that, the album sounds really original to my ears and I see this album with much more similarities than The Crucified than Deliverance itself.

I don't really know what people expect from a thrash album, if not an album like The subversive kind.
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Post by strangerhoncho on Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:30 pm

Wigeon wrote:I got the new album via download this weekend. It is everything they said it would be - fast, thrashy, heavy, aggressive, a true "return to form". That being said, I find it boring and hard to get into. To me, it sounds like they took song candidates from "What a Joke" that didn't make the cut, and put them on a new album almost 30 years later with better musicians. Nothing really innovative, emotional, melodic or impressive. Looking back now, I personally prefer the direction Jimmy took with Learn and River Disturbance. All that being said, the production is really good, the guitars sound great, solos are cool, bass and drums are awesome sounding but overall it's just an average thrash album for me.
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This.  I agree completely 100%.  I liked everything Deliverance did up through As Above, because they always wrote memorable songs whatever the style was.  Listened to this whole album and not a single moment stood out in my memory after it was done.  I had super low expectations (because seriously, it's extremely rare for latter-day albums by groundbreaking bands to be any good), so I'm not too bummed.  Surprised at the paint-by-numbers songwriting, but whatever.  I'm glad they did it and I would still support them again entirely based on what they meant to me growing up, but I'll probably only give it one more listen.

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Post by Follower of Jesus on Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:12 am

I too was disappointed. I was hoping for thrash in the vein of the s/t and Weapons: thrash, but many melodic moments too. There's almost none of that here. It's pure speed/thrash. It reminds me of The Crucified. For many, that'll be a good thing, but I never really got into The Crucified for the same reason. I prefer the first three D albums to the later stuff, though I like that style too. But the melodic thrash of songs like No Time, Deliverance, The Call, Weapons of our Warfare, Flesh and Blood, What A Joke, etc. is easily my favorite D sound. I was hoping for more of that on this new album, but there is almost none of it. Reason #107 why I'm done doing crowdfunding. You support something without really knowing what you're going to get. Kudos to Jimmy for delivering an old-school thrash album that many D fans will love. But it's just not my thing.
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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:41 am

Follower of Jesus wrote:I too was disappointed. I was hoping for thrash in the vein of the s/t and Weapons: thrash, but many melodic moments too. There's almost none of that here. It's pure speed/thrash. It reminds me of The Crucified. For many, that'll be a good thing, but I never really got into The Crucified for the same reason. I prefer the first three D albums to the later stuff, though I like that style too. But the melodic thrash of songs like No Time, Deliverance, The Call, Weapons of our Warfare, Flesh and Blood, What A Joke, etc. is easily my favorite D sound. I was hoping for more of that on this new album, but there is almost none of it. Reason #107 why I'm done doing crowdfunding. You support something without really knowing what you're going to get. Kudos to Jimmy for delivering an old-school thrash album that many D fans will love. But it's just not my thing.
Though I loved that album, I also miss some melodic moments, as well.

That's why I would say that it still not in the level of Weapons, my favorite album.
Maybe it's coming on the same level of WaJ, which is a mix of spectacular brutal songs with some bad tracks (such as Silent Night, After Forever and the jokes, of course).

I also agree regarding this album being more similar to The Crucified than Deliverance itself. It has a huge influence of Jim Chaffin on it.
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Post by Temple of Blood on Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:54 am

Hmm, based on all the negative reactions here I think I will hold off on buying the new album.  I haven't enjoyed anything they've done since Weapons.

I'm also highly skeptical of bands who crank out albums quickly and have side projects.  It's better to develop songs and play them live with your band over a period of months before committing them to recording.

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Post by New Creation on Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:30 pm

I love it! Hard and fast!
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Post by cailen on Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:40 pm

You guys throw fuel into the fire of my expetations, I am really hooked now!
 
   I was not able to back the album so I have to wait but I will definitly pick this one up!

 I very often prefer the demo and better "What a joke" songs when I listen to the big D

 because of their rawness, in your face music and aggression. 

 Lets wait and see. Hoping for some JIG, Greetings of..., Prophet of ... Product of...

 subversive activity

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Post by strangerhoncho on Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:05 pm

I'm surprised by people comparing it to the Crucified, since I hear none of that even with Chaffin's involvement.  I'm a huge Crucified fan and feel they've got some of the best, most memorable songs, hooks, and riffs ever written in hardcore/thrash.  The Subversive Kind...not so much.

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Post by Temple of Blood on Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:14 pm

Probably because they are saying it's not as melodic as old Deliverance.  I seriously doubt the drummer had anything to do with that change though.

I liked Minier a lot, but never The Crucified.  What are The Crucified's best songs?  They didn't seem like a riff or melody band to me.

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Post by jimmypbrownii on Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:37 pm

LOL...

Thanks for the kind words from those of you who appreciated the record... It is what it is... Can't please all people...

For years, I was criticized for not doing a thrash record... I delivered what was expected... 

"Paint by Numbers Songwriting"... LMAO!!! Now that is funny!!! Best thing I have ever read about my songwriting... 

I do have to agree with stranger honcho... I am a huge Crucified fan as well, and there is nothing on here that remotely resembles their sound or vibe! Even with 2 of the key members performing on it...

I can never log onto this site from my phone or tablet, and rarely am I on my laptop, but when I am, I like to visit... 

Thanks for always making me smile, in more ways than one... ;-)

And by the way Wigeon, some bands and artists can fund their own projects with no help whatsoever... Like my solo album ERASERHEAD! I completely funded it, paid for flights, hotels, food costs, also the musicians fees all out of pocket by me! Just as I did with the following albums:

Assimilation
As Above - So Below
Hear What I Say
This Sad Veil of Tears (Fearful Symmetry)
Loss of Balance (Fearful Symmetry)
Back From Mars (Jupiter VI)
Movable Walls (Jupiter VI)
ERASERHEAD

These were NOT funded by a record label! They were completely paid for out of pocket! I have not had Label Support since 1989-1996! 

I think Crowdfunding is a cool thing for fans who want to fund a particular record or project to help direct the sound... Unfortunately, not every band and project can fund their project because of exorbitant costs... Thus the resorting to crowdfunding...

It can be a blessing... It can be a curse... Wigeon, send me an email to jimmypbrownii@gmail.com and I will make sure to get you a preview of ERASERHEAD since you dig the direction of Learn and River Disturbance... I think you will LOVE THIS!!!

Take care all, Blessings and Merry CHRISTmas!!!
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Post by jimmypbrownii on Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:41 pm

Temple of Blood and cailen...

check your PM's...

Thanks... :-)

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Post by MikeInFla on Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:25 am

I'll be ordering this when it shows up wherever it may.I've heard the first tune and like it and I like the last album "Hear What I Say".

I am actually hoping for more music from Jupiter VI as "Moveable Walls" was one of my favorite CD's over the past few years. Still listening to that one
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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:09 am

For those who are suspicious about this aIbum, I would recommend to wait for some reviews in some specialized website, such as angelic warlord.

I am pretty sure it will get great reviews.
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Post by Temple of Blood on Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:52 am

I think the key to understanding this release is to look at what was stated in the promo:

"'The Subversive Kind' is a true return to form for these Christian thrash pioneers, boosting 8 brand new tracks that truly bring the thrash back. We are very excited to once again be partnering with 3 Frogz, Jimmy Brown and Deliverance to bring you this awesome new thrash release. The fans that have been requesting a 'Weapons part 2’ will be ecstatic with this new release and I'm going to go out on a limb and say that

this new album is the bands 'Reign in Blood.'

Stay tuned as we prepare to bring you 'The Subversive Kind' in early 2018."



This album is akin to Reign in Blood in many ways:


1. Top-notch fast and furious drumming.  I love the tone of the drums on this album, most modern thrash bands have horrible-sounding drums.
2. Forceful mid-range thrash vocals
3. Most songs are fast and the album overall is quite short.  Getting in, making a statement, and leaving
4. Very little emphasis on lead guitar solos
5. The production is very good


I think a lot of thrash fans will like this album and it is much better than most of the current thrash scene these days.


For me personally however, "Reign in Blood" is my least favorite of the first 6 Slayer albums.  I prefer thrash albums that are more riffy and melodic (think Artillery, early Annihilator, early Megadeth). 


It's a good album and I think they achieved their goals but it's not the style of thrash that I personally enjoy the most.

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Post by MikeInFla on Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:03 pm

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Post by Black Rider on Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:56 pm

And it's short like Reign in Blood.  Very Happy Looking forward to getting this when it's released to the unwashed masses.
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Post by Airola on Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:08 am

Wigeon wrote:Gary Lenaire somehow managed to release a new album that is stellar in my opinion (Fell Sirens to the Sea is an absolute masterpiece of a song) without resorting to crowd funding.
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Many songs on that album were old songs that had been done nearly a decade ago. Fell Sirens to the Sea is one of them (it's a Talking Snakes song and its original title is Knowing the Tree of Good and Evil), however the No Time Now version has a different part near the opening of the song and the sounds have been remixed so I don't know if the song was actually completely re-recorded. But anyways, a lot of the songs were pretty much ready so not much time and money had to be put in for them.

I don't mean to bash the album for that because I love most of the songs, but it's not that much of a wonder that Gary was able to put it out without crowdfunding.

cailen wrote:You guys throw fuel into the fire of my expetations, I am really hooked now!
 
   I was not able to back the album so I have to wait but I will definitly pick this one up!

 I very often prefer the demo and better "What a joke" songs when I listen to the big D

 because of their rawness, in your face music and aggression. 

 Lets wait and see. Hoping for some JIG, Greetings of..., Prophet of ... Product of...

 subversive activity

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Exactly what I'm thinking! Very Happy

I thought The Black Hand was very promising and it had this special sense of fury and hunger, although it wasn't something that would jump to be a new Deliverance favorite of mine. So my expectations got up quite a bit.

Now I'm reading a few negative responses, but what they are saying with their criticism actually makes me even more excited!
Songs like Prophet of Idiocy and A Product of Society are what I consider prime Deliverance thrash material. In fact I think What a Joke is the band's best thrash album (just cut a few songs out and it's absolute perfection).

Temple of Blood wrote:I think the key to understanding this release is to look at what was stated in the promo:

"'The Subversive Kind' is a true return to form for these Christian thrash pioneers, boosting 8 brand new tracks that truly bring the thrash back. We are very excited to once again be partnering with 3 Frogz, Jimmy Brown and Deliverance to bring you this awesome new thrash release. The fans that have been requesting a 'Weapons part 2’ will be ecstatic with this new release and I'm going to go out on a limb and say that

this new album is the bands 'Reign in Blood.'

Stay tuned as we prepare to bring you 'The Subversive Kind' in early 2018."



This album is akin to Reign in Blood in many ways:


1. Top-notch fast and furious drumming.  I love the tone of the drums on this album, most modern thrash bands have horrible-sounding drums.
2. Forceful mid-range thrash vocals
3. Most songs are fast and the album overall is quite short.  Getting in, making a statement, and leaving
4. Very little emphasis on lead guitar solos
5. The production is very good


I think a lot of thrash fans will like this album and it is much better than most of the current thrash scene these days.


For me personally however, "Reign in Blood" is my least favorite of the first 6 Slayer albums.  I prefer thrash albums that are more riffy and melodic (think Artillery, early Annihilator, early Megadeth). 


It's a good album and I think they achieved their goals but it's not the style of thrash that I personally enjoy the most.

Reign in Blood is my least favorite of Slayer's early albums too, but my reasons for that controversial opinion is that most of the songs just has too much unmemorable riffs. Most of the songs in between Angel of Death and Raining Blood are fillers. And even those two songs, that are in my opinion thrash classics, have some boring parts in them. South of Heaven, Divine Intervention and Seasons in the Abyss are much better albums.

So I'm not sure whether I should be excited that this Deliverance album is called as their Reign in Blood or not.
I guess it all comes down to how exciting the riffs, rhythms and tempo sounds for me.
If the full album is full of as good material as The Black Hand, I'd say it will be a very stellar listening experience for me. If some of the songs are better than that, I will probably love it.

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Post by average joe on Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:08 am

Nice breakdown Temple of Blood. I haven't purchased any of the post speed/thrash metal albums from the band that earned the right (early on) to simply be called "Big D" by their brilliant early work. I will be listening to the new one tomorrow in hopes that it truly does live up to the "Return to form," "Thrash is back," "Reign in Blood" billing. Really hoping to hear something fast, furious and intricate with those WAJ guitar tones (i.e., similar to "Pseudo Intellectual" musically).
 
Temple of Blood, I would also love to see Jimmy, Glenn and the fellas write the next thrash album with some of that early infectious combination of speed and melody. So, out of curiosity, I went back to listen to a couple up-tempo songs from their last one, "Hear What I Say." I was thinking that perhaps Jimmy could no longer sing that way. Question I was pleasantly surprised. Wow! Jimmy sounded absolutely fantastic on "Where Eagles Dare." Far better than the original. It smokes! He sounded fantastic. I also liked the melodic piano intro (Liber III) that led into the one other song that I enjoyed, "The Annals of Subterfuge." Jimmy really sounded good on that one as well (nice combination of melody and aggression). His singing voice (melodic hooks), mixed with the fast and furious playing, is what made D so special to begin with. In fact, I think the current lineup has all the pieces in place to go the "riffy/melodic" thrash route next time out. To this day, the hook laden S/T never gets old IMO, regardless of how much it is played. Would absolutely love to see Glenn back in the writing mix with Jimmy next time out. 
 

That said, hoping for some more of this when I listen to the new one tomorrow (i.e., "Too hard to play!") Wink  

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Post by MikeInFla on Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:24 pm

I will buy this on CD when it comes out... When does it come out? I have "Hear What I Say" from iTunes. Looked at it today and it is also just over 30 min (and one song is a repeat in another language). I think the CD has spoiled us on album lengths. Many classics clock in 30-40 minutes. The new Styx release has 17 songs and is only 43 minutes.  When bands go back to doing something classic they do it like it's being done for vinyl and that's fine w me.
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Post by strangerhoncho on Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:13 am

Temple of Blood wrote:Probably because they are saying it's not as melodic as old Deliverance.  I seriously doubt the drummer had anything to do with that change though.

I liked Minier a lot, but never The Crucified.  What are The Crucified's best songs?  They didn't seem like a riff or melody band to me.

Not melodies, but hooks and riffs (relative to hardcore) they have plenty.  It's hard to say because I don't think they have a bad song on their two full-lengths.  Every one stands apart to my ears.  Mindbender from Pillars of Humanity is probably their most memorable song, but I also love It's All About Fear, The Wrong One, Fellowship of Thieves, Focus, and Blackstone/So-Called Living 1991.

From their s/t, much worse production of course, but Hellcorn, Rise, One Demon to Another, A Guy in the Suit and the Pope, and The Insult Circus stand out most to me.

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Post by strangerhoncho on Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:26 am

Temple of Blood wrote:
This album is akin to Reign in Blood in many ways:


1. Top-notch fast and furious drumming.  I love the tone of the drums on this album, most modern thrash bands have horrible-sounding drums.
2. Forceful mid-range thrash vocals
3. Most songs are fast and the album overall is quite short.  Getting in, making a statement, and leaving
4. Very little emphasis on lead guitar solos
5. The production is very good


I think a lot of thrash fans will like this album and it is much better than most of the current thrash scene these days.


For me personally however, "Reign in Blood" is my least favorite of the first 6 Slayer albums.  I prefer thrash albums that are more riffy and melodic (think Artillery, early Annihilator, early Megadeth). 


It's a good album and I think they achieved their goals but it's not the style of thrash that I personally enjoy the most.

I would agree with all of this about this album.  It's not BAD at all.  It's superbly played.  I like Metallica-style melody in thrash, but more than that I just value diversity in songwriting and truly distinctive riffs/hooks for my thrash.  What a Joke is my favorite thrash album by D because those songs all stood out and had varied riffs, choruses, hooks, etc.  I was never a huge Slayer fan because most of their songs sound pretty similar, although I like them a few songs at a time.  This is kinda the same.  I could see throwing a song or two among a playlist and digging them just fine, but as a whole album it's just too same-y and unimaginative for my tastes. 

THAT said, I've only given it one listen while I was doing some other stuff.  That's sort of my barometer for music; if nothing catches my attention while I'm preoccupied, then it's not an album for me.  I don't need more background noise in my life, I need memorable songs.  I will definitely give it another listen or two and see if the songs stand out more.

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Post by MikeInFla on Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:11 pm

Again does anyone know when an actual CD will be for sale?
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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:01 am

Probably in february or march through Roxx Records.
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Post by metaldude on Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:35 pm

MikeInFla wrote:Again does anyone know when an actual CD will be for sale?

I believe the release date is Feb 23.
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Post by Dynamis on Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:29 pm

For those who are suspicious about this aIbum, I would recommend to wait for some reviews in some specialized website, such as angelic warlord.

For better or for worse, here is the Angelic Warlord review: http://www.angelicwarlord.com/reviews/d/deliverance18.html
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Post by metaldude on Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:51 am

Dynamis wrote:
For those who are suspicious about this aIbum, I would recommend to wait for some reviews in some specialized website, such as angelic warlord.

For better or for worse, here is the Angelic Warlord review: http://www.angelicwarlord.com/reviews/d/deliverance18.html

Nice piece,  Andrew.
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Post by strangerhoncho on Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:01 am

Dynamis wrote:
For those who are suspicious about this aIbum, I would recommend to wait for some reviews in some specialized website, such as angelic warlord.

For better or for worse, here is the Angelic Warlord review: http://www.angelicwarlord.com/reviews/d/deliverance18.html

Good review!  My critique got a mention!  Ha.  I've given it a few more listens and I'm still just kinda bored by it overall.  There are some cool moments to be sure, but I've got a list of 500 other metal albums from the last two years that I still haven't had time to get to so I won't be listening to it over and over hoping it will finally sink in.  Who has the time for that?!  I have to say in all the years I've listened to music I've never once come back to an album I didn't like at first and found my opinion changed.  Never.  And I've tried plenty of times.  That's great that you can, but my ears either like or don't like what they hear right away and it doesn't change on repeat!

But it's not a terrible album and as I said I'd still support them in a heartbeat because of what they meant to me in the past and because I believe in what they're doing and hope they keep doing it!  Everyone should check it out, especially since it seems everyone else loves it!  Ignore me and just listen to it.

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Post by Wigeon on Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:58 pm

I enjoyed it a little more cranked up in my truck sound system as opposed to listening via headphones in my office. The Fold is a really good song and is getting stuck in my head! The opening and main riff reminds me of the first Vengeance album.
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Post by alldatndensum on Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:06 pm

While we are discussing Jimmy's projects, I am looking forward to the new Eraserhead album he is planning that is supposed to be more like the middle era Deliverance sound.  That should be amazing.

Also, I wish we could get more Jupiter VI. I had someone send me some MP3s of an album of Jupiter VI's that was never released.  The sound wasn't quite finished, so these may have been demo copies of this album that did not happen.  I ran them through the ol' mastering software to see if I could make them sound bigger.  I have more tweaking to do, but they sound decent.  I wish we could get "A Message From Home Pt. 1" properly released even if it were just demo songs.
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Post by average joe on Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:45 pm

I'm already looking forward to the next Deliverance thrash album!

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Post by MikeInFla on Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:44 am

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Post by Wigeon on Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:50 pm

I have to admit that the album is growing on me as I listen more. And I am not just saying that because Jimmy called me out above (lol!). I had a feeling he would be reading/watching as I posted my review. Nevertheless, I'm a little disappointed in something else. I just realized that the front and back cover images and liner notes were included in the .zip file download I received as one of the crowdfunders. My gripe is that almost half of the image with the liner notes is overlapped by the image of the back cover. Can anyone hook a brother up with the full page image of the liner notes? Interested in seeing the lyrics, solo credits, etc.
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Post by crucifyd on Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:22 am

did anybody that did the crowdfunding already get the CD copy of this? i heard Scott say they backers had already gotten theirs on his latest video...

I haven't seen it yet, just curious.
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Post by strype53 on Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:31 pm

I have received mine in the mail.  I have listened to it for the last couple of days.  I think it is pretty good.  I am just happy to have anything new from Deliverance.  I think the album sounds better with each listen.  My favorite is always the first 4 albums.
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Post by eatbugs on Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:28 am

I received mine last week.

It is good - not Weapons II, but maybe What a Joke II (and better because there are no joke songs).  It's too soon to tell where it will rank in the Deliverance discography.  Top half for sure, ask me in a year or two.

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Post by MikeInFla on Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:47 am

Mine came in the mail yesterday and i was able to listen to it today. I like it! I am not really a big fan of thrash (More of a Barren Cross, Saint, Whitecross kind of guy). One thing i noticed is the mastering -- very good. Not too loud like a lot of modern releases.

Sounds like Big D to me! I like it better than the last album. Track 6 is my favorite (forget the name at the moment and the CD is in my truck).

Mine came with an album sticker.
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