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Post by Hardcore Christian on Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:22 pm




THE LETTER BLACK SIGN WITH EMP LABEL GROUP. PREPARE RELEASE OF THIRD ALBUM PAIN, MAY 26th.
3/13/2017
The Letter Black, who first burst onto the hard rock landscape with their Tooth & Nail debut HANGING ON BY A THREAD in 2010, are back with a new record and a new label, set to release their third album, PAIN May 26th on EMP LABEL GROUP. Produced by guitarist Mark Anthony, and mixed by the legendary Ben Grosse (Blink 182, Disturbed, Starset), the album, an aggressive step forward, shows the band venturing into heavier new territory.
“When we met to talk about the new record, it was unanimous that we wanted to do what we’ve been wanting to do all along. Metal. Though we have had those moments in the past, we were always restricted for various reasons. Those barriers are gone now, and that allowed us to create the record the way we wanted. This album is The Letter Black. For the first time, I feel we have successfully delivered the most honest and true music in the band’s history” recalls Mark.
Vocalist Sarah Anthony adds, “I wanted to really explore my vocals on this effort. I wanted to dive more into the aggressive side matching the more aggressive music but also touching on some more intimate moments on a few songs as well.”
In late 2016, the band, Vocalist Sarah Anthony, Guitarist Mark Anthony, and drummer Justin Brown, began talking to (Megadeth bassist) David Ellefson and Thom Hazaert of EMP LABEL GROUP. Through these talks, the band found themselves inking a new deal with EMP opening up a new direction for 2017.
“We are beyond excited to be working with David and Thom over at EMP. We really feel like they get what we are about. We have never spoken with anyone so open to letting us just go with it and create the album that we want to. That kind of trust makes us even more determined to do them proud and deliver the best album we ever have” states Mark.
“The band’s previous releases had been a huge for the band at Tooth and Nail, and they have always been an amazing hard-working band.”, says Hazaert. “So when the opportunity came to bring them into the fold at EMP we jumped at the chance. The Letter Black is one of the hardest-working bands out there, and we couldn’t be happier to welcome them to the family.”
The Letter Black released HANGING ON BY A THREAD, and the 2013 follow-up REBUILD on Tooth and Nail, before departing the label before the recording of PAIN. The band has since played over 100-150 shows a year, including support for Skillet, Thousand Foot Krutch, and more.
Formed in 2015, EMP has quickly become one of the go-to labels in the Worlds of Metal and Rock. Distributed by AMPED in North America, and SPV in Europe, EMP boasts a diverse roster including Cage9, Doyle, Mark Slaughter, Broken Teeth, Ancient, Doll Skin, Another Lost Year, Helstar and more!


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Post by alldatndensum on Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:46 pm

I will probably back this if they have a tier priced for me.
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Post by Staybrite on Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:18 pm

alldatndensum wrote:I will probably back this if they have a tier priced for me.

Right now the lowest cost tier where you get a physical CD is $30.
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:51 pm

Staybrite wrote:
alldatndensum wrote:I will probably back this if they have a tier priced for me.

Right now the lowest cost tier where you get a physical CD is $30.
I'd be fine with 20 but 30 is a little much I understand it being signed but and usigned should be easy to do for 20

Anyway probably just gonna do a digital copy
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Post by Staybrite on Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:10 am

I would do $20, but I'm not kicking in $30 for a cd....not even crazy about paying $15 for just a download.  
However, they've managed to collect just over $5000 in a couple of days...so it looks promising for them.
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:38 am

Staybrite wrote:I would do $20, but I'm not kicking in $30 for a cd....not even crazy about paying $15 for just a download.  
However, they've managed to collect just over $5000 in a couple of days...so it looks promising for them.
Yea I think they have a pretty sizeable fan base and will make it fairly easily, I will do the same $15 just to get the 2 extra songs and special album art.
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Post by alldatndensum on Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:16 am

I will contact them for a $20 CD (not autographed) and digital downloads before the album is released.  It has worked with other bands who had too high of a pricing tier.
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Post by alldatndensum on Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:20 am

Let's see what happens.  I just sent a private message through Facebook.
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Post by Staybrite on Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:27 pm

If I remember correctly didn't Guardian lower some of the prices in their kickstarter campaign?
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:29 pm

alldatndensum wrote:Let's see what happens.  I just sent a private message through Facebook.
They responded to me correcting them about this being their last album or not so I think they are pretty responsive
Staybrite wrote:If I remember correctly didn't Guardian lower some of the prices in their kickstarter campaign?
I think it was them scratch
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Post by alldatndensum on Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:36 pm

Staybrite wrote:If I remember correctly didn't Guardian lower some of the prices in their kickstarter campaign?


I asked Jamie via a PM, and he directly responded and made it happen.  I told him about others here at the CMR wanting a lower tier and they'd get behind it, too.  Now, while I did not care for the album, that is a great way to respond to fans!

As for The Letter Black, they did not respond as I hoped they would.  Here is the reply I got from Sarah, the vocalist, when I asked about a $20 non-autographed version:

Hi Chris! I understand
where you're coming from but the reason the price is higher than it would normally be for a CD is because we are trying to raise money. If this were a normal site just for merchandise, the price would definitely be lower. Thank you for your concerns though and hopefully you can find an extra $10 to show us your support and help us reach our goal! Thank you so much!!

Sarah

I let her know that I still felt that $30 was too much and that I would wait until the album was released.  I like them, but not $30 worth.
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:28 pm

alldatndensum wrote:As for The Letter Black, they did not respond as I hoped they would.  Here is the reply I got from Sarah, the vocalist, when I asked about a $20 non-autographed version:

Hi Chris! I understand
where you're coming from but the reason the price is higher than it would normally be for a CD is because we are trying to raise money. If this were a normal site just for merchandise, the price would definitely be lower. Thank you for your concerns though and hopefully you can find an extra $10 to show us your support and help us reach our goal! Thank you so much!!

Sarah

I let her know that I still felt that $30 was too much and that I would wait until the album was released.  I like them, but not $30 worth.
Im not gonna hold it against them, I have seen plenty of other bands give a lot for $30 bucks, its fine that they are doing this but not even a non autographed one is pretty dissapointing

Fallstar for example gave away their entire discography for $30 bucks (3 albums and an EP)
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Anyway I'll probably just do the digital download



P.S. Maybe I should message and ask the same thing maybe if enough people ask we could make it happen? Wink
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:32 pm

I just messaged them this:

Hey! Not to bug you guys, but is their anyway you could do a non autographed hardcopy for $20? I really wanna help you guys out and get my hands on a real copy, but being a broke highschooler $30 is a little much, is their anyway that could happen?
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Post by alldatndensum on Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:31 am

Let us know what they say!

I won't hold anything against them if they don't change their pricing tiers.  I just won't get the album until after it is released is all.
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Post by Staybrite on Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:09 pm

I would have kicked in $30 if I felt confident that I would really like the new album.  I felt rather let down by the last album, and rarely listen to it.  While I don't think $30 is highway robbery, it is a little too much for me to throw at something I might not even enjoy....better to wait until I can hear the music first.
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:25 pm

alldatndensum wrote:Let us know what they say!

I won't hold anything against them if they don't change their pricing tiers.  I just won't get the album until after it is released is all.

Staybrite wrote:I would have kicked in $30 if I felt confident that I would really like the new album.  I felt rather let down by the last album, and rarely listen to it.  While I don't think $30 is highway robbery, it is a little too much for me to throw at something I might not even enjoy....better to wait until I can hear the music first.

They haven't directly responded to my message but
they posted this morning that they are going to adding some different perk options this afternoon.

Glad to hear that they might be considering a lower offer!

It sounds promising Very Happy
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:19 pm

Haha they did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Theres now a $20 dollar offer for a regular physical copy!
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Post by alldatndensum on Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:35 am

The guitarist PM'd me on Facebook to tell me that they had indeed listened to our requests.  Since I was the first, Sarah didn't want to make a new pricing tier for just me.  However, they have gotten a few requests now from various folks and the band has decided to give this a try.  While some of us may not feel like throwing $30 at it, they will pick up a few folks who would like to help them out.
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Post by My Awesome Timothy on Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:52 am

Hardcore Christian wrote:Haha they did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Theres now a $20 dollar offer for a regular physical copy!

I might message them and and ask if they could do a $15 deal as I have lots of children!!!    lol!
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Post by alldatndensum on Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:31 am

They do have one if you want the download only!
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:59 pm

My Awesome Timothy wrote:
Hardcore Christian wrote:Haha they did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Theres now a $20 dollar offer for a regular physical copy!

I might message them and and ask if they could do a $15 deal as I have lots of children!!!    lol!
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:51 pm

Backed my 20 for a hard copy bounce

10 days left, they need about $6000 more

Its gonna be close
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Post by alldatndensum on Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:02 am

I remember when Decyfer Down did their last Kickstarter.  They started off strong and died out about half way through.  They ended up NOT getting the funds.  They had to drop back down some and try again.  They made it with the second attempt.

Hopefully for The Letter Black, that won't happen.  Perhaps they have a generous benefactor that will kick in a couple of grand.  It happens with some artists.
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Post by alldatndensum on Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:36 pm

The band is only $94 dollars away with 4 days to spare.  Looks like this one is going to happen!
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:15 pm

They made it! Woo!
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Post by Staybrite on Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:07 pm

Good news!
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:15 pm

The Kickstarter finished!

They raised almost 10k extra, they said they would put toward two music videos and a new photoshoot, they only needed another 500 or so, to release a song instantly

but we didnt make it that far Surprised
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:12 am

If you didnt see it all ready they posted their first full song

It is pre-production though

https://www.facebook.com/theletterblack/videos/10154339189958004/
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Post by alldatndensum on Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:16 am

The album is temporarily on hold.  The husband/wife duo that is the core of the band just had their new baby.
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Post by Staybrite on Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:19 pm

alldatndensum wrote:The album is temporarily on hold.  The husband/wife duo that is the core of the band just had their new baby.

That is a very good reason to take a break....not that they will get much rest with a new baby.  Very Happy
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Post by arttieTHE1manparty on Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:41 pm

I honestly don't remember if I contributed to this one or not. I crowd fund so many releases I can't always remember.

I DO remember funding the Bloodgood DVD that is now about 3 years in the making, however... Frustrating right there...


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Post by alldatndensum on Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:17 am

arttieTHE1manparty wrote:I honestly don't remember if I contributed to this one or not.  I crowd fund so many releases I can't always remember.

I DO remember funding the Bloodgood DVD that is now about 3 years in the making, however...  Frustrating right there...


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Reminds me of the Guardian album.  I just hope you like the DVD better than I did that album!
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:44 pm

Just updated this thread (changed title, photo, and OP)

The reason being is them signing onto the EMP Label
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Post by alldatndensum on Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:34 am

Of course, The Letter Black signed with a label after they did their Kickstarter.  I am surprised, though, with the number of bands signed to a label that have to do fundraising to record.  The labels are not willing to spend a dime on a lot of artists and expect to rake in the profits.  Outside of possible radio play, what is the benefit of being on a label anymore?
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Post by ImagoDei on Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:27 am

^Probably hook you up with tour dates and festivals that you might not otherwise have a shot at, which means hopefully a better income off the band. I'm sure it's happened, but I've never seen an unsigned act open for a big name or at some place like Rock on the Range.

I'm pretty interested in this new album, saw them live a couple of years ago and they were very good.

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Post by Hardcore Christian on Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:59 pm

alldatndensum wrote:Of course, The Letter Black signed with a label after they did their Kickstarter.  I am surprised, though, with the number of bands signed to a label that have to do fundraising to record.  The labels are not willing to spend a dime on a lot of artists and expect to rake in the profits.  Outside of possible radio play, what is the benefit of being on a label anymore?

ImagoDei wrote:^Probably hook you up with tour dates and festivals that you might not otherwise have a shot at, which means hopefully a better income off the band. I'm sure it's happened, but I've never seen an unsigned act open for a big name or at some place like Rock on the Range.

I'm pretty interested in this new album, saw them live a couple of years ago and they were very good.

Just the same as Disciple signed with Tooth and Nail

Doesnt bother me at all, ya gotta have some way to get copies of the album and the word of new music out there
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Post by alldatndensum on Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:58 pm

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alldatndensum wrote:Of course, The Letter Black signed with a label after they did their Kickstarter.  I am surprised, though, with the number of bands signed to a label that have to do fundraising to record.  The labels are not willing to spend a dime on a lot of artists and expect to rake in the profits.  Outside of possible radio play, what is the benefit of being on a label anymore?

ImagoDei wrote:^Probably hook you up with tour dates and festivals that you might not otherwise have a shot at, which means hopefully a better income off the band. I'm sure it's happened, but I've never seen an unsigned act open for a big name or at some place like Rock on the Range.

I'm pretty interested in this new album, saw them live a couple of years ago and they were very good.

Just the same as Disciple signed with Tooth and Nail

Doesnt bother me at all, ya gotta have some way to get copies of the album and the word of new music out there


I think that Disciple only signed on with T&N for distribution.  I think they have retained their indie status and are signed for merely having their product in stores.  I could be wrong about that.

If the artists are happy with it, I don't have a problem with it.  I just don't see the benefit of raising the money yourself and doing the album and the label having little invested in you.  To me, that screams that they don't believe in you or your music.  I get not having a label and signing later if you choose to.  But, what I am saying I don't understand is someone being already signed to a label and having to fund raise just to get to do another album.  If you are already signed, then the label should be investing in you and your product (recording).  If they can't or won't, then they don't believe you really have what it takes to be a success--to me.
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Post by ImagoDei on Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:09 pm

^ I think I see what you're saying and it makes sense. How I think it should work is the label funds your recording and reaps the money from album sales, then the band makes money from touring and royalties. I wonder how much the digital age and streaming has impacted the first part of that equation.

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Post by alldatndensum on Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:25 am

ImagoDei wrote:^ I think I see what you're saying and it makes sense. How I think it should work is the label funds your recording and reaps the money from album sales, then the band makes money from touring and royalties. I wonder how much the digital age and streaming has impacted the first part of that equation.


Streaming has seriously impacted the industry.  The labels sued their way in but haven't been able to win lawsuits to get the same royalties from it you do through radio and tv.  So, the amount of money coming in is smaller.  Bands now have to give up large hunks of money made from shows and merch that used to be theirs.  That is why you are seeing even up and coming acts charging $200 for a show.  I am old school enough that I say that there isn't anyone worth paying that much to see.

Labels used to make their money mostly off of album sales after recouping money investing in recording and promotions.  Artists can fuss about that, but it is what they signed on to.  Many feel they didn't get paid for their work.  While their were some dishonest deals, many bands did not have the sales needed to recoup those moneys.  Of course, you won't get paid.
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Fri May 26, 2017 3:27 pm

Really loving this after a few listens!

The first 6 tracks are incredibly strong! On the second half, a favorite I have found is I Am



Hoping the second half grows on me! So far pretty impressed!

I like the sound, one thing I noticed is that the only thing that makes this "metal" is Sarah's added growl vocals

Other than that, instrument wise, a really consistent hard rock sound

One thing that is lacking is Mark's vocals are almost non-existent

I have to say that the best part of this is Sarah's vocal performance, not many female singers can do what she does on this record.

(One other minor thing that I found annoying, is that the two "bonus tracks", for backers, are just radio-ish versions of two songs already on the album, I was hoping there would be some epic attempt at metalcore or something Smile)


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Post by Verbum Lux on Fri May 26, 2017 5:25 pm

Will probably pick this up at some point.  The first two albums were pretty decent.  Nothing overly special, but pleasant to listen to now and then.  I'm curious to see if they've improved.
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Re: The Letter Black NEW RECORD

Post by Hardcore Christian on Fri May 26, 2017 6:58 pm

Verbum Lux wrote:Will probably pick this up at some point.  The first two albums were pretty decent.  Nothing overly special, but pleasant to listen to now and then.  I'm curious to see if they've improved.
Well if get a whole lot heavier is an improvement, then they have

She sings a few songs, but the majority of the verses are growls, still clean choruses

Loving it a whole lot more than their previous albums!
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Re: The Letter Black NEW RECORD

Post by alldatndensum on Sat May 27, 2017 8:03 am

I have downloaded mine but haven't listened to it yet.
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Re: The Letter Black NEW RECORD

Post by alldatndensum on Mon May 29, 2017 9:30 am

Hoping the second half grows on me! So far pretty impressed!

I like the sound, one thing I noticed is that the only thing that makes this "metal" is Sarah's added growl vocals

Other than that, instrument wise, a really consistent hard rock sound

One thing that is lacking is Mark's vocals are almost non-existent

I have to say that the best part of this is Sarah's vocal performance, not many female singers can do what she does on this record.

I will agree with most of this.  This isn't a heavier album musically at all.  It is pretty much the same as their previous albums.  The only thing more "metal" is the increased amount of Sarah's hardcore vocals.  For me, this is more of a detractor than a positive as she has a great singing voice.

There are still few guitar solos.  A metal record needs guitar solos.

On first listen, it is an okay album.  I hope it will grow on me.
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