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Post by Soldier777 on Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:38 pm

Another online Christian Music store is going out of business...shaverav.storenvy.com.


I used to buy stuff at the older  online store version years ago the owner had and I forget what it was called. They have Extreme Metal marked down to $3 a CD. The 3 main US based online stores I usually inquire/shop at is

http://brentschristianrockmetal.com/

http://www.girdermusic.com/musicshop/

http://www.roxxproductions.com/


http://www.christianrockshop.com/ is another store but I find there is never nothing there I want.

I found out about the one going out of business where I was considering placing an order for a couple of CDs.


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Post by alldatndensum on Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:07 am

I haven't bought from Shaver Audio & Video in a long time.  I hate that they are closing, but I haven't found anything from them in a long time.

I won't order from Girder.  I've had a couple of bad deals with them and just don't feel like going into that now. 

I have used Christian Rock Shop.  They even carry one of my CDs!

My favorite place is Amazon.  So much turns up there that I don't really need a lot of other shops.  I occasionally order from Roxx when they get something new I am interested in like the Recon remaster and the Eternal Ryte Anthology.  I also use Boone's Overstock as that is the official store of Retroactive Records (Matt Hunt).
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Post by Deepfriar on Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:30 am

Metalhelm.com is a great US store.

There are other sellers on storenvy.com you can just go to the main site and search what you are looking for.

Nordicmission.net is a great store overseas.

Discogs.com is an excellent private seller community. I've found many rare releases there.

I think there used to be a list somewhere of all the online stores we could find that sold Christian metal. I'm not sure what happened to it. Check the sticky topics it might be there.
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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:01 am

Alot of my music comes from ebay and amazon but I have ordered from Brent as well as from the labels a few times..

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Post by Kerrick on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:12 am

Shaver announced going out of business a while ago...  Sad  It's been a long time since I've ordered from them too just due to selection.  That being said, that Dormant CD is extremely rare and very good (if you like atmospheric black metal).  Once it's gone from Shaver... it's probably going to be extremely difficult to find!

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Post by ThomasEversole on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:28 am

When I talked to Shaver via e-mail last June, it kinda seemed like to me like he wasn't feeling the best. (he used the words "this funk I have been in")

Its a shame to see his shop go. He was one of the better experiences I've had with online stores as an artist/supplier of music.
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Post by eatbugs on Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:05 pm

Lots of good distro sites mentioned here.  No one has mentioned Sanctus Gladius yet, so I will.

Ulterium Records is good too but shipping is expensive to the US and now Christian Metal Distro carries their stuff.

There used to be a "Where Can I Buy" sticky thread.  Maybe we should start a new one?

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Post by My Awesome Timothy on Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:16 pm

SOUNDMASS is an awesome place to buy music and merchandise from!!! 
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Post by ThomasEversole on Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:52 pm

Soundmass is a very solid store.  Very honest and communicative.  

My opinion, and no one has to agree with it, is that the business practices are definitely geared toward the benefit of the store and the customer - not so much the artist that works with them...

My opinion, the absolute best stores out there (for customers AND artists) is Vision of God Records and No Sleep Till Megiddo Records.
They're both timely, fair, honest and a pleasure to work with.
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Post by Soldier777 on Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:23 pm

Thanks for the additional online ordering links. I have checked them out. I'm considering placing an order with Soundmass and I've heard of them years ago. The Austrailan dollar is a tad less than the Candian dollar. I have bought stuff from the far east before and the shipping don't take long to reach Canada. Has anyone from North America ever placed orders from them before?
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Post by alldatndensum on Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:52 pm

I haven't ordered from Soundmass.  If I have, I don't recall it.  Most of the things I do buy, I can get cheaper in the States so I just order more locally.

For me:

Amazon
Boone's Overstock
CD Baby
Christian Rock Shop
Direct from band when possible
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Post by Blake on Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:39 am

I justp picked up Dormant from Shaver last week. Havent listened to it, but it was only a few bucks
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Post by Kerrick on Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:25 am

^Nice!  I think you'll dig it.

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Post by ThomasEversole on Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:50 am

I picked up 2 CDs from Shaver's "Going out of Business" sale.
He told me he'd like to regroup and start another store again in the future, but I think he wanted to spend more time with his kids and focus on other life stuff for the time being.
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Post by Blake on Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:29 am

ThomasEversole wrote:I picked up 2 CDs from Shaver's "Going out of Business" sale.
He told me he'd like to regroup and start another store again in the future, but I think he wanted to spend more time with his kids and focus on other life stuff for the time being.

I can certainly relate.
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Post by KaramKaram on Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:52 am

Here's the thread you guys were talking about

http://thecmr.forumotion.com/t1489p200-where-can-i-buy

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Re: Another online Christian Music store is going out of business...

Post by Soldier777 on Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:59 am

I'm planning on placing an order for a few CDs at Soundmass. They have a good selection and the Australian dollar is few cents less than the Canadian dollar and their prices are decent and similar to American places like Roxx and Girder. I loose 30% whenever I order from the US. Sound mass will save me some $$$$. I may contact the owner on shipping time to North America.
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Post by Alan TWWB on Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:22 am

This is a great thread.  I have been looking into this exact question while promoting the album SEVERITY by my band THE WORLD WILL BURN.  It is getting harder and harder for most people to find the music the want.  What is everyone's platform for finding and buying music?  Amazon has been the best for us so far.  We have been at the top or near the top on their hot new alternative music charts for over 2 months.  This is surprising because it is not a christian outlet, and we are competing against all of the big secular bands.  
Our own website has sold a lot, especially for people who want a signed CD.  We are selling through CDbaby a little.  All the rest are scattered sales from a dozen or so sites.
We worked out a distribution deal with Retroactive Records.  Matt Hunt has been fabulous.  He sells on ebay as Boone's Overstock and then distributes to many international stores.  They have an amazing inventory, too.
We want to get our album into the hands of people that want it, but our shotgun approach may not be the best way to do it.  I am curious what you guys do and where you think the industry is headed.

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Post by eatbugs on Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:43 pm

Alan TWWB wrote:What is everyone's platform for finding and buying music?

My first choice would be brick-and-mortar stores (Christian or mainstream) whenever possible.  It's almost never possible anymore.  Then it depends on what I'm looking for.  I trust Christian Metal Distro and some other distro sites named in this thread.  For older/used stuff I use Amazon or E-bay.  I usually don't buy direct from the band because it's too much work and have had bad luck with that in the past.  The "one stop shop" thing of distro sites is preferable for me.

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Post by Throne of thorns on Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:42 pm

I got the re-issues of mortifications first 3 albums from soundmass. All good from me.
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Post by Alan TWWB on Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:00 am

I prefer brick and mortar stores too, but there isnt one within a reasonable distance from me that carries anything I listen to.  It seems amazon is the most popular these days.  It also seems that most of the online christian music stores sell on Amazon as well, but I would rather get it directly from the store so they dont have to pay Amazon.

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Post by ThomasEversole on Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:32 am

...too bad Amazon wants you to pay $39.99 a month to sell there. Shocked
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Post by ThomasEversole on Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:09 pm

Soldier777 wrote:
http://www.christianrockshop.com/ is another store but I find there is never nothing there I want.

Christianrockshop.com is a blank page...
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Post by ThomasEversole on Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:12 pm

5 days and counting, christianrockshop.com is still blank. Literally, the index page has no characters when you look at the source. Its blank.
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Post by Throne of thorns on Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:03 am

Music is dying, welcome to the information age friends.
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Post by alldatndensum on Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:01 am

We want to get our album into the hands of people that want it, but our shotgun approach may not be the best way to do it.  I am curious what you guys do and where you think the industry is headed.

DIGITAL STREAMING.

Only hardcore music lovers even buy physical product.  Some folks buy MP3s, but streaming is where the industry is.  Having your content whenever you want it is where the industry has been heading and now is.  As a musician, though, you will get paid even less through streaming media with the way that the major labels get most of the money from royalties.  So, you keep making CDs and download cards that fans can buy at shows.  If you autograph them at the show, it makes it even more of a collectible for that fan.

Other than that, there really isn't a place to go now.  You might want to do a short vinyl run as folks seem to be collecting those again although I don't understand why.
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Post by ThomasEversole on Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:22 am

The chances of selling CDs is dramatically lower when digital formats are also available. That's why, for my current project (Orationem) I have EXCLUSIVE CDs releases and one EXCLUSIVE download/streaming release. (ie: there's no CDs available for the download release, there's no downloads available for the CD release)

Best decision I've ever made as an artist and (CD) sales are good.

alldatndensum wrote:As a musician, though, you will get paid even less through streaming media with the way that the major labels get most of the money from royalties.

You're wrong. Lets talk just about YouTube for a second.

Depending on your content and how you monetize your account, you could actually make a LOT more money than with CDs. Being that YouTube is a VIDEO channel (and king of streaming media) you'd really have to make a music video to get an insane amount of views, but you could still amass quite a bit from an audio track.

If its good.

This link has some good information regarding making money from (YouTube) streaming
http://www.pennapowers.com/how-much-do-youtubers-make/

This is one of many possible averages, but big picture, an artist with a monetized account is looking at $18 for every 1,000 views you get.

Let me put this number of views into perspective. Years ago, I made a homebrew PSP game. I made a video of the gameplay and uploaded it to YouTube. Posted on ONE PSP forum and had almost 3,000 views in a couple hours.
...and I'm a nobody.

Naw, if you got the means and the talent to make good music content via streaming videos (YouTube), you'll be raking in the cash. It doesn't surprise me at all that streaming is now king.
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Post by MetalForJesus on Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:33 am

You can see links to the Christian Metal Shops I have listed on the link section of www.metalforjesus.org

Here is the direct link Christian Metal Links
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Post by Blake on Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:01 am

ThomasEversole wrote:...too bad Amazon wants you to pay $39.99 a month to sell there.  Shocked

Really? That's the first I've heard of that. I have an Amazon Seller account and I have my Repossession: A Christmas Album CDs for sale through there and I don't pay any monthly fee, although as with all other sites they take a small percent of sales.

As for where I usually find music though I recently have been getting away from physical media (although I always swore I wanted to have CDs) and I try to buy digital on Amazon or iTunes when possible (digital is usually slightly cheaper and saves space in my office now).
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Post by Temple of Blood on Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:44 pm

No one playing metal is gonna make a living from streaming original music they wrote.

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Post by Throne of thorns on Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:04 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:No one playing metal is gonna make a living from streaming original music they wrote.
No one playing metal is going to make a living from it full stop let alone music in general.
Music takes from more than gives that's why I sold my stuff just waste of time and endless heart break sucks you dry and you get nothing back in return. I love music though.
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Post by d@v!d on Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:52 am

Temple of Blood wrote:No one playing metal is gonna make a living from streaming original music they wrote.
No band will ever make any money if it never makes a show of force.
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Post by d@v!d on Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:56 am

Throne of thorns wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:No one playing metal is gonna make a living from streaming original music they wrote.
No one playing metal is going to make a living from it full stop let alone music in general.
Music takes from more than gives that's why I sold my stuff just waste of time and endless heart break sucks you dry and you get nothing back in return. I love music though.
I'll one up you. It's more heartbreak when you realize that after so many years of effort along with accepting and that one isn't even a very good musician either.
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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:19 am

Maybe these "christian" metal music stores are dying because "Christian" metal is dying...Huge amounts of "Christian" bands these days hate being "Christian" and are moving away from it...

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