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Post by Guest on Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:25 pm

I've been a fan of this band since I was a wee lad and first got into Metal! I had "Run to the Light" on cassette back in the day and practically wore it out!!!

I put this in the Christian section as there are some Christian members in this band. But they don't classify themselves as Christian (I'm aware of that). Feel free to move this thread if needs be. Smile 

Anyway - any fans of this fantastic Doom Metal/Stoner Metal band from Chicago?

Let's talk about em!!



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Post by Friday13th on Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:55 pm

Yeah love Trouble. "The Tempter" has got to be one of the top 20 greatest metal songs.
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Re: Trouble

Post by Guest on Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:11 pm

I'm cranking their latest album today, "The Distortion Field".

I like it quite well! Kyle Thomas is a good fit for the band IMHO.

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Post by metaldude on Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:08 pm

While I'll admit, The Distortion Field sounds good, to truly sound like Trouble, you need Eric Wagner. I think I prefer The Skull over a Wagner-less Trouble.

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Post by xMetalMarkx on Sat Dec 05, 2015 1:04 am

LOVE THEM LOVE THEM LOVE THEM LOVE THEM LOVE THEM!!

My first proper exposure to them was via The Skull 30 years ago this month!  I have just about everything by them except for the remarkably awful Kory Clarke-fronted Live in L.A.:  official releases/demos/outtakes/alternate mixes/custom masters/65 or so live bootlegs...I'm always in the mood to listen to Trouble!

They were no-shows twice in my area when I tried to see them in 1996 & 2005, but I finally managed to catch them twice in early 2006.  The latter of those was one of the best sets I ever saw a band play.

I'm a bit back and forth on The Distortion Field--Kyle is a better fit than Kory ever was, but Eric's voice is so distinctive and a great match when he's having a good day--but, similarly, I find The Skull to not have riffs of the same strength as Trouble and long to hear Bruce & Rick behind Eric.
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Post by cliffenstein on Sat Dec 05, 2015 9:40 am

Not to mention the fact that The Skull album SOUNDS terrible!  I had high hopes for it, but was sorely disappointed.

Long live the mighty Trouble!!!!
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Post by deathisgain on Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:49 am

cliffenstein wrote:Not to mention the fact that The Skull album SOUNDS terrible!  I had high hopes for it, but was sorely disappointed.

Long live the mighty Trouble!!!!

Really? I love that album over the latest Trouble. What did you not like about it?
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Post by cliffenstein on Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:03 pm

deathisgain wrote:
cliffenstein wrote:Not to mention the fact that The Skull album SOUNDS terrible!  I had high hopes for it, but was sorely disappointed.

Long live the mighty Trouble!!!!

Really? I love that album over the latest Trouble. What did you not like about it?

The horrible sounding cymbals!
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Post by Candlemass on Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:09 pm

Trouble has never had great production, like most doom bands, doesn't surprise me...
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Post by MikeInFla on Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:33 pm

I like th the Def American album (self titled) and Green Plastic Head but that's it. I wish the Def American was available on CD because I only had it on cassette. I'll have to go over to iTunes and see if it would s there. As for Production I thought Rubin did a fantastic job.
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Post by ludey7 on Sat Dec 05, 2015 3:13 pm

I have the ST on CD & I think it's their best album. I like Run to The Light, the S/T, & Manic Frustration. Psalm 9 & the Skull are classics as well.

I want to love the new incarnations of this band but it's just not there. I love Bruce Franklins playing for sure but it's just not Trouble without Eric... Those two guys are so distinct to Troubles sound that without either it pales in comparison.

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Post by Guest on Sat Dec 05, 2015 8:40 pm

The new Trouble (with Kyle) is certainly different from their previous works with both Eric and Kory.

It's much less Doom Metal and more Stoner Metal. I do prefer their works with Eric over this new one - but in it's own right ... it's actually a pretty good Stoner Metal album. If you kinda look at it as if it's a new band - it sounds a lot better.

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Post by Tobi Elektrik on Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:05 pm

I'm quite picky but I have to say that I like BOTH albums (Trouble's / The Skull's) and while it's a bit confusing to have TWO bands with original Trouble members now playing the same style of music........ we have TWO cool bands here IMO!
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Post by Guest on Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:13 pm

Tobi Elektrik wrote:I'm quite picky but I have to say that I like BOTH albums (Trouble's / The Skull's) and while it's a bit confusing to have TWO bands with original Trouble members now playing the same style of music........ we have TWO cool bands here IMO!




Good and positive way to look at it dude! Thumbs up



I will have to pick up The Skull's album!!!

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Post by jeffcorpse on Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:47 am

LOVE THESE GUYS! Trouble and The Skull sound great!
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Post by Machine Fish on Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:00 pm

I like Trouble quite a bit. I haven't really heard much of the middle stuff. But The Skull was my first introduction. I really like Distortion Field too.
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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:23 pm

I know that Bruce Franklin from Trouble is a Christian. Does anyone know if Eric Wagner is too? Just curious.

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Post by Marcus Moore on Fri Dec 11, 2015 12:58 pm

Love The Skull, new trouble, like the music, not the vocals...
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Re: Trouble

Post by oldschooldoom on Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:37 pm

You all are in trouble!!!!

I mean, you all are into Trouble.

Cool, very cool
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Re: Trouble

Post by Tobi Elektrik on Sun Dec 13, 2015 3:30 pm

RavenWolf wrote:I know that Bruce Franklin from Trouble is a Christian. Does anyone know if Eric Wagner is too? Just curious.

Nope. He is a very spiritual person and believes that there is more outside of this world - maybe something like God. He used a lot of Christian influences for Trouble's lyrics but he is definitely not a Christian.
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Post by Guest on Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:10 pm

Tobi Elektrik wrote:
RavenWolf wrote:I know that Bruce Franklin from Trouble is a Christian. Does anyone know if Eric Wagner is too? Just curious.

Nope. He is a very spiritual person and believes that there is more outside of this world - maybe something like God. He used a lot of Christian influences for Trouble's lyrics but he is definitely not a Christian.


Thanks for letting me know! I'll be praying for him!



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Post by Candlemass on Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:58 pm

There is trouble in the metal realm, there is trouble w/the peeps;
For the people scream "Wagner!" But the band ignores their pleas...
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Post by Guest on Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:11 pm

Why did they fire Wagner anyway? Does anyone know? Or did he quit?

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Post by metaldude on Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:14 pm

RavenWolf wrote:Why did they fire Wagner anyway? Does anyone know? Or did he quit?

Wagner left. He didn't like not playing the old Trouble tunes and said he was burnt out on touring. They (Trouble) said he had personal issues he needed to fix. They also said they would not write with Wagner again.
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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:29 pm

Thanks for the info metaldude! I was wondering what happened. I've been out of the loop since they stopped making print magazines. Webzines just aren't as special to me. I used to love reading my mags.

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