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Post by d@v!d on Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:40 pm

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d@v!d wrote:So I come home from work the other day and my wife's friend from Nigeria is visiting and my wife asks me to help her friend to print a form she downloaded on our computer. It's a form to set up a money transfer to a Nigerian bank. Oh the irony I thought. So I ask her if didn't get an email from some prince over there needing help getting his estate money out of the country... Wink


LOL what did she say?
Of course she wasn't falling for a scam. She knows better. It was just the irony of seeing a Nigerian living in the US setting up to transfer money to Nigeria when so many in the US have been scammed into sending money there.
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Post by d@v!d on Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:40 pm

Guest wrote:sometimes i just want the world to stop so i can get off
I'm sorry things are tough. I hope you find peace.
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Post by Guest on Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:27 pm

Guest wrote:sometimes i just want the world to stop so i can get off


Aaron, you will be sorely missed here. I am here because of you. I will miss you and I know that many others will as well. I wish you would reconsider. Smile

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Post by Guest on Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:55 pm

I will miss Aaron and I just met him. I was super active here from 2012 through early 2015 but not so much lately and we never got to interact much.

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Post by KaramKaram on Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:24 pm

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Post by d@v!d on Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:47 pm

KaramKaram wrote:He Already Left, left
That's a funny pun that would be funny if it were only just funny.
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Post by d@v!d on Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:47 pm

Got some sort of under construction page. double post.
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Post by d@v!d on Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:56 pm

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Guest wrote:sometimes i just want the world to stop so i can get off


Aaron, you will be sorely missed here. I am here because of you. I will miss you and I know that many others will as well. I wish you would reconsider. Smile
Maybe I'm reading too much into things, but you may need to take into consideration the issues he's facing with his daughter. I'm sure if I were going through that I would be very sensitive to any little issue here. I pray that she recovers and maybe when things calm down for him, he'll make his way back.
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Post by Guest on Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:38 pm

Yeah, truth be told, Aaron is going through a LOT right now!

I don't want to reveal too much - for the sake of his privacy, but he has been in my prayers a lot.

His daughter is maybe needing surgery and that's really soon.

Also - he has a lot more than just that going on. I feel for him - and I think he will be back. I'm hoping so. He emailed me today and told me what was going on. He really could use all the prayer he can get at this point. Thanks everyone who prays for him!

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Post by ThomasEversole on Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:19 pm

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Maybe I'm reading too much into things, but you may need to take into consideration the issues he's facing with his daughter.

I disagree. He deleted his account immediately after he made his last post in the now locked 2 cents thread.
I know because we were both online and then Aaron C turned into guest.

It's apparent he's tired of the incessant attacking here.
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Post by d@v!d on Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:53 pm

RavenWolf wrote:Yeah, truth be told, Aaron is going through a LOT right now!

I don't want to reveal too much - for the sake of his privacy, but he has been in my prayers a lot.

His daughter is maybe needing surgery and that's really soon.

Also - he has a lot more than just that going on. I feel for him - and I think he will be back. I'm hoping so. He emailed me today and told me what was going on. He really could use all the prayer he can get at this point. Thanks everyone who prays for him!
Thanks. I thought as much. We shouldn't forget him just because he is absent.
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Post by d@v!d on Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:57 pm

On the lighter side...
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Post by metaldude on Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:07 pm

Guest wrote:sometimes i just want the world to stop so i can get off

You know where I stand. Hope to see you back soon. May you and you family be overtaken by God's love and blessings in every area of your life.
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Post by Peter who was Vaak on Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:21 am

My church had service in my backyard tonight.  Also, there was a wedding proposal there!  It was awesome!
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Post by messiaen77 on Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:02 am

d@v!d wrote:On the lighter side...
Thanks a lot man, it always takes at least a week to get that song out of my head.  Some friend you are.  Just Joking
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Post by messiaen77 on Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:20 am

RavenWolf wrote:Yeah, truth be told, Aaron is going through a LOT right now!

I don't want to reveal too much - for the sake of his privacy, but he has been in my prayers a lot.

His daughter is maybe needing surgery and that's really soon.

Also - he has a lot more than just that going on. I feel for him - and I think he will be back. I'm hoping so. He emailed me today and told me what was going on. He really could use all the prayer he can get at this point. Thanks everyone who prays for him!
Yeah, I just read his prayer request yesterday afternoon.  My heart breaks for him; when my oldest was 10 days old we had to take him to a pediatric cardiologist--the most terrifying day of my life.  Please let Aaron know he is in my prayers and that we hope to hear his praise report on the other side of this.
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Post by messiaen77 on Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:22 am

KaramKaram wrote:He Already Left, left
That's not entirely surprising.  He's been saying for a while that he's just not into the music as much as he used to be.  I wouldn't read anything into it other than that.
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Post by Guest on Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:49 pm

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d@v!d wrote:
Maybe I'm reading too much into things, but you may need to take into consideration the issues he's facing with his daughter.

I disagree. He deleted his account immediately after he made his last post in the now locked 2 cents thread.
I know because we were both online and then Aaron C turned into guest.

It's apparent he's tired of the incessant attacking here.


It's a combination of both things. But when your daughter is up for surgery ... that has to weigh heavy on your heart. The combination of that and the fighting here ... was just too much for him to handle. He is going through a very tough trial right now and he needs to find all the peace of mind he can. If coming here is too much for him - I totally understand that. He wanted to be built up, not torn down.


Aaron is a great person with a huge heart! I still consider him part of this community ... but he is just taking a break. I'm sure he will be back. Probably after the stress in his life comes to a calm.


He's been one of my best friends for over 10 years now. We met online and have never met in person. But through the years, we've stayed in contact. Goes to show that true friends CAN be made through these forums.

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Post by Guest on Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:51 pm

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RavenWolf wrote:Yeah, truth be told, Aaron is going through a LOT right now!

I don't want to reveal too much - for the sake of his privacy, but he has been in my prayers a lot.

His daughter is maybe needing surgery and that's really soon.

Also - he has a lot more than just that going on. I feel for him - and I think he will be back. I'm hoping so. He emailed me today and told me what was going on. He really could use all the prayer he can get at this point. Thanks everyone who prays for him!
Yeah, I just read his prayer request yesterday afternoon.  My heart breaks for him; when my oldest was 10 days old we had to take him to a pediatric cardiologist--the most terrifying day of my life.  Please let Aaron know he is in my prayers and that we hope to hear his praise report on the other side of this.




Will do messiaen! Thanks for your prayers and support! I just sent him an email and told him how many people here are praying for him and who care about him!



I know there are those here with cold hearts who really could care less for the people who come here. But those folks are outnumbered by the ones who DO care! I told him that too!

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Post by KaramKaram on Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:17 pm

LemonMouse it's gone too

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Post by Kerrick on Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:26 pm

RavenWolf wrote:Will do messiaen! Thanks for your prayers and support! I just sent him an email and told him how many people here are praying for him and who care about him!

I know there are those here with cold hearts who really could care less for the people who come here. But those folks are outnumbered by the ones who DO care! I told him that too!

Yes, please keep us posted.

As for those with cold hearts... I'm not sure I agree.  Maybe one or two, but by and large, I've got to know most of the regular folks here pretty well over the years and from my perspective, the ones I think you may perceive as having cold hearts are actually the ones who care most - but they care more about proclaiming God's Truth than being polite and PC, which in the end is what truly matters.

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Post by d@v!d on Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:35 pm

KaramKaram wrote:LemonMouse it's gone too
ah, that guy had the sweetest moniker.
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Post by d@v!d on Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:39 pm

Aquél que cree que es dueño de todas las vidas
que porque tiene un arma en su mano
o porque guarda otra en su espalda
esta bien equivocado
Que le falta la ambición
para calmar el ansia
piénsalo, piénsalo y dímelo
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y como sueñas
como sueñas con ser eminente
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Post by ThomasEversole on Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:52 pm

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As for those with cold hearts... I'm not sure I agree.  Maybe one or two, but by and large, I've got to know most of the regular folks here pretty well over the years and from my perspective, the ones I think you may perceive as having cold hearts are actually the ones who care most - but they care more about proclaiming God's Truth than being polite and PC, which in the end is what truly matters.

I don't think anyone here has an intentionally cold heart or have the intention to be destructive - but that doesn't stop someone interpreting it that way, and being cold to them.

I do think its a byproduct of something else.
Here's a few theories.

1) They've got something else going on in their life and this place gets the blowback from that... or the cultural difference in that some families/friends/circles have more abrasive interactions with each other.
2) They "follow" those around who are wrong and preach to them because that's what people in their life do to them or have learned some other way to bully others with their beliefs.

My personal opinion, and I've seen a fair amount of this the years I worked as a counselor, is this
3) there's a certain amount of something resembling narcissism/solipsism or maybe even multiple personalities with some members here. Some of my clients I had back in the day, face to face interactions are always cordial and polite, but an e-mail, a mailed letter or sometimes a phone call will be outright CRAAAAAAAAAZY - like different methods of communication created a different person.

That's where those like myself come in.

See, I am the polar opposite of solipsistic. My interactions online, via phone, face to face have the same weight. The "its just an online forum, its not a big deal" stance is obviously part of the problem and I couldn't disagree more.

Its still a REAL PERSON having a REAL CONVERSATION. The only real difference is distance and communication medium.

My fault here (and I'll be the first to admit it) is two fold - see, I'm used to naturally commanding respect because of my appearance and that's 100% ego. That didn't really show up until later in life when I got to where I warm up with a set of 10 rep of 315lbs on the flat bench. I mean, who tries to piss off someone 3 times stronger than they are in real life?

No one.
...and I'm used to that.

The other part of it is if there's no clarification, extending an olive branch or at least saying they didn't mean it that way but instead say "this is just how I am, deal with it"... I'm not above waiting YEARS for an opportunity to use their defects against them in a completely honest manner...
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Post by Kerrick on Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:22 pm

KaramKaram wrote:He Already Left, left

I talked to him on Facebook and he wanted to let folks know that it was primarily because his tastes in music have changed and most threads just no longer interested him.  Also for whiners haha.  He wanted me to pass on the fact that he deleted his account to avoid the possibility of someone figuring out his password and masquerading as him at a place he doesn't check regularly and therefore wouldn't be aware of.  So if you're going to leave, he recommends doing the same to be on the safe side.

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Kerrick wrote:
As for those with cold hearts... I'm not sure I agree.  Maybe one or two, but by and large, I've got to know most of the regular folks here pretty well over the years and from my perspective, the ones I think you may perceive as having cold hearts are actually the ones who care most - but they care more about proclaiming God's Truth than being polite and PC, which in the end is what truly matters.

I don't think anyone here has an intentionally cold heart or have the intention to be destructive - but that doesn't stop someone interpreting it that way, and being cold to them.  

I do think its a byproduct of something else.  
Here's a few theories.  

1) They've got something else going on in their life and this place gets the blowback from that...  or the cultural difference in that some families/friends/circles have more abrasive interactions with each other.  
2) They "follow" those around who are wrong and preach to them because that's what people in their life do to them or have learned some other way to bully others with their beliefs.

My personal opinion, and I've seen a fair amount of this the years I worked as a counselor, is this
3) there's a certain amount of something resembling narcissism/solipsism or maybe even multiple personalities with some members here.  Some of my clients I had back in the day, face to face interactions are always cordial and polite, but an e-mail, a mailed letter or sometimes a phone call will be outright CRAAAAAAAAAZY - like different methods of communication created a different person.  

That's where those like myself come in.  

See, I am the polar opposite of solipsistic.  My interactions online, via phone, face to face have the same weight.  The "its just an online forum, its not a big deal" stance is obviously part of the problem and I couldn't disagree more.  

Its still a REAL PERSON having a REAL CONVERSATION.  The only real difference is distance and communication medium.

My fault here (and I'll be the first to admit it) is two fold - see, I'm used to naturally commanding respect because of my appearance and that's 100% ego.  That didn't really show up until later in life when I got to where I warm up with a set of 10 rep of 315lbs on the flat bench.  I mean, who tries to piss off someone 3 times stronger than they are in real life?  

No one.
...and I'm used to that.

The other part of it is if there's no clarification, extending an olive branch or at least saying they didn't mean it that way but instead say "this is just how I am, deal with it"...  I'm not above waiting YEARS for an opportunity to use their defects against them in a completely honest manner...

I totally agree about real people and real conversations.  If folks treated each other here as they would in person, I think this would be a vastly different place.  And thanks for your honesty and humility in your own faults too.

Any of those scenarios are possible, and while it helps to know where your audience is coming from, we should be careful in assuming anything about each others' personal lives.

But again, treating people online as you would in person and with respect goes a LONG way and is something we can all grow in.

Thomas, I emailed you through CMR so whatever email you use for your account here, it'll have a message from me.  Smile   Let's talk about this more privately.

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Post by ThomasEversole on Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:11 pm

Sorry bro, that thomas@thefieldofkings.com isn't valid anymore and hasn't been in years. I've tried to change it multiple times, but all I get is this "Sorry, but this e-mail address is invalid." error message.

You know my Orationem e-mail though. ;P
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Post by Kerrick on Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:15 pm

Ok cool; I'll send it now.  Smile

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Post by metaldude on Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:10 am

Well, high school football season is over for me this year. Maybe I can get my weekends back. All I have to do now is two months worth of "honey do's". face palm
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Post by Driven on Tue Nov 10, 2015 5:58 pm

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Post by Deepfriar on Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:03 pm

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Post by metaldude on Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:03 pm

I'm not talking about religion
I'm not talking about just a belief
I'm not talking about going to church
No that's not Christianity


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Post by Guest on Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:16 pm

Heck yeah! Altar Boys RULES!!!

NOT TALKING ABOUT RELIGION!!!


NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST A BELIEF!!!

Altar Boys was my ALL TIME favorite band when I was a wee lad!!!


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Post by messiaen77 on Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:19 am

Loved the Altar Boys!
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Post by sentient 6 on Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:07 pm

d@v!d wrote:
Maybe I'm reading too much into things, but you may need to take into consideration the issues he's facing with his daughter. I'm sure if I were going through that I would be very sensitive to any little issue here. I pray that she recovers and maybe when things calm down for him, he'll make his way back.

Yes. He has a lot to deal with and he and his family really need our prayers.

I just read through some of the threads a couple of days ago and i'm not sure how I should respond to some of this stuff. Or even if I should. Because I'm sure I am one of the people that some have issues with. All I can say is that I never intended to offend anyone on a personal level. But at the same time I don't feel that there was anything wrong with what I posted either.

....I guess i'm on eggshells around here right now.
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Post by ThomasEversole on Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:01 pm

The beliefs here vary, just like personalities. Some things need to be said the right way and in some instances, not said at all.

Anyone can expect problems when they encroach their views upon others, even if those views are brought forth as genuine help, or belligerent contempt for someone's preacher.
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Post by d@v!d on Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:29 pm

sentient 6 wrote:
d@v!d wrote:
Maybe I'm reading too much into things, but you may need to take into consideration the issues he's facing with his daughter. I'm sure if I were going through that I would be very sensitive to any little issue here. I pray that she recovers and maybe when things calm down for him, he'll make his way back.

Yes. He has a lot to deal with and he and his family really need our prayers.

I just read through some of the threads a couple of days ago and i'm not sure how I should respond to some of this stuff. Or even if I should. Because I'm sure I am one of the people that some have issues with. All I can say is that I never intended to offend anyone on a personal level. But at the same time I don't feel that there was anything wrong with what I posted either.

....I guess i'm on eggshells around here right now.
You aren't on eggshells here, nor am I. None of us sought to offend and nothing we said should have been taken a offensive under normal circumstances. But, when you consider his family situation, you can understand why he would be so sensitive.
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:44 am


Guest wrote:sometimes i just want the world to stop so i can get off

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KaramKaram wrote:LemonMouse it's gone too

Its sad so many nice people have left, I pray for them as you never know if you'll here from them "here" again
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Post by messiaen77 on Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:00 am

ThomasEversole wrote:The beliefs here vary, just like personalities.  Some things need to be said the right way and in some instances, not said at all.

Anyone can expect problems when they encroach their views upon others, even if those views are brought forth as genuine help, or belligerent contempt for someone's preacher.
Yes, but it is also a two-way street.
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Post by d@v!d on Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:01 am

ThomasEversole wrote:The beliefs here vary, just like personalities.  Some things need to be said the right way and in some instances, not said at all.

Anyone can expect problems when they encroach their views upon others, even if those views are brought forth as genuine help, or belligerent contempt for someone's preacher.
"disagree with that person most of the time they open their mouth in every "group" they go to, over and over and over and over and over..."

Funny how that works.
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Post by messiaen77 on Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:03 pm

If I write my thoughts down in a notebook specifically dedicated to writing down my thoughts, can I still consider those thoughts random?
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Post by d@v!d on Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:33 pm

messiaen77 wrote:If I write my thoughts down in a notebook specifically dedicated to writing down my thoughts, can I still consider those thoughts random?
As long as the notebook was published be Random House.
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Post by ThomasEversole on Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:40 pm

d@v!d wrote:
"disagree with that person most of the time they open their mouth in every "group" they go to, over and over and over and over and over..."

Funny how that works.

Giving someone a taste of their own medicine isn't glorious by any means and is a rather dirty way to clean the streets,
but if their own dose either gets them better or sick enough to stop, its worth personal defamation to stop the plague from spreading.

It would be nice if something else worked though...
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Post by H.M. Murdock on Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:52 pm

I cut down trees. I eat my lunch. I go to the lavatory. On Wednesdays I go shopping and have buttered scones for tea.
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Post by Kerrick on Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:47 pm

H.M. Murdock wrote:I cut down trees. I eat my lunch. I go to the lavatory. On Wednesdays I go shopping and have buttered scones for tea.

cheers

Great, now I'm going to have that song stuck in my head all day...

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Post by d@v!d on Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:34 pm

ThomasEversole wrote:
d@v!d wrote:
"disagree with that person most of the time they open their mouth in every "group" they go to, over and over and over and over and over..."

Funny how that works.

Giving someone a taste of their own medicine isn't glorious by any means and is a rather dirty way to clean the streets,
but if their own dose either gets them better or sick enough to stop, its worth personal defamation to stop the plague from spreading.

It would be nice if something else worked though...
OK. So now that we've initiated dialog. You are totally wrong about me, my motivations, and my means. Please take that into consideration as you are fighting the wrong battle. I don't go about following anyone to undermine them. Have I done that to you? Who else? No, nobody. I agree where I agree and disagree where I disagree with no partiality. If you think you see a pattern, take into consideration that it isn't any personal bias on my part, but perhaps just the phenomena that those who make points I disagree with may likely make many points I tend to disagree with. Don't worry, I forgive you. It's an easy mistake. I understand as I'm fairly cynical too. I might have been inclined to see me as you have. But now that I'm calling this out, it's time for you to put the down the sword. OK?

If you want to argue the point further, that's fine. No need to use round about methods now; just talk to me. I'm a very reasonable person.
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Post by Driven on Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:04 pm

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Post by ThomasEversole on Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:30 pm

David, I don't know why you'd want to drag this out in the open.
If you want to be "reasonable", take it to PM.

I replied to what you said, to you.
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Post by d@v!d on Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:41 pm

ThomasEversole wrote:David, I don't know why you'd want to drag this out in the open.
If you want to be "reasonable", take it to PM.

I replied to what you said, to you.
It started open. I don't care to necessarily drag it out open, but I'm fine with it being open too since it is broader than us both.
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Post by messiaen77 on Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:36 pm

ThomasEversole wrote:
d@v!d wrote:
"disagree with that person most of the time they open their mouth in every "group" they go to, over and over and over and over and over..."

Funny how that works.

Giving someone a taste of their own medicine isn't glorious by any means and is a rather dirty way to clean the streets,
but if their own dose either gets them better or sick enough to stop, its worth personal defamation to stop the plague from spreading.

It would be nice if something else worked though...
There is something that works--JUST LET IT GO!!!!

Good grief!  You are the one who brought up the idea that these roving bands of meanies go from thread to thread picking fights with people, yet I've gone to at least three, maybe four different threads today in which YOU were dragging up the same ol', same ol' about how horrible it is here.  Look, I know you have had some rough spots recently, but that is all the more reason you just need to not let the perceived negative stuff that goes on here get to you--just let it go and move on!

Kerrick/Karam/Exo--I know.  Self-imposed exile coming up.

Thomas--I will feel bad about how I said this tomorrow, so I am going to apologize in advance rather than wait until I return in December.
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