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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 09, 2015 4:30 pm

From their Facebook page:
"Ok so I am talking to engineers and ready to book studio time but it's hard to pull the trigger and commit to spending money on the project when we only have 825 likes. I'm just having an honest moment with you!"




I don't know about you, but I would LOVE to hear some new Novella.


If you feel the same, please visit their Facebook page and show them some support  


https://www.facebook.com/Novella.theoriginal

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Post by deathisgain on Tue Jun 09, 2015 5:33 pm

If they don't mind losing money, then it won't be a waste of time and money.
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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:30 pm

I love Jonathan's voice and what Novella brought to the table...

But I don't like being motivated by guilt.  Kind of like another *similar* post that made the rounds here recently.  Tempted to quote Roland Stephen Taylor's "I Manipulate" again.

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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:40 pm

He isn't trying to make anyone feel guilty, he's simply being honest that he isn't sure there is enough demand for them to do it.

People always say they want honesty, but when someone is honest they complain, wow.

I was the one who said to go show him some support....not him.

He's telling us that the project may not happen. He's been saying to us on Facebook for months that they were going to start recording in the summer, so he is simply keeping us updated that it may not happen now.

I consider that classy.

How many times have projects fell apart or bands backed out of reunions without so much as an explanation..,,here we have someone explaining why it might not happen.

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Post by bodachi on Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:51 pm

I would recommend a Kickstarter drive.
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Post by alldatndensum on Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:56 pm

We all need to remind him that it is NOT a waste of money.  Will they make back what they spend?  Perhaps not.  However, if they are creating art because they love doing it, then that money is not wasted.
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Post by bodachi on Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:00 pm

alldatndensum wrote:...[I]f they are creating art because they love doing it, then that money is not wasted.
That's easier to say when it's not your money!
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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:32 am

bodachi wrote:I would recommend a Kickstarter drive.

So would I. This is the safest way of getting a minimum return for their investiment with music.
Otherwise not only would Novella take a huge risk to not get their money back, but also would they get upset with the quantity of illegal downloads that it might get.
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Post by Follower of Jesus on Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:47 am

bodachi wrote:
alldatndensum wrote:...[I]f they are creating art because they love doing it, then that money is not wasted.
That's easier to say when it's not your money!

But if anyone here would understand where they may be coming from, it's Alldat. Chris, have you made back the money you poured into the Mission of One albums?
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Post by Candlemass on Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:29 am

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bodachi wrote:
alldatndensum wrote:...[I]f they are creating art because they love doing it, then that money is not wasted.
That's easier to say when it's not your money!

But if anyone here would understand where they may be coming from, it's Alldat. Chris, have you made back the money you poured into the Mission of One albums?

Little different w/a full band and upscale production...
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Post by Blake on Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:38 am

Never heard of Novella but I agree both that a kickstarter is the way to go, and when it comes to creating art/music its an investment. Although I do understand money frustrations as my recent cd release last month was entirely handmade and it cost more than I expected
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Post by alldatndensum on Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:52 am

Follower of Jesus wrote:
bodachi wrote:
alldatndensum wrote:...[I]f they are creating art because they love doing it, then that money is not wasted.
That's easier to say when it's not your money!

But if anyone here would understand where they may be coming from, it's Alldat. Chris, have you made back the money you poured into the Mission of One albums?



Heck, no!  I probably never will, either!  Luckily, I bought my own recording gear so I don't have that expense.  But, I'll never get the money back I spent on CDs.  I never meant to, though.  I sell quite a few and give away even more.  With Mission Of One, it is about reaching people.  If I have to give away a CD or download to get the gospel into someone's hands, then so be it.
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Post by bodachi on Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:50 am

alldatndensum wrote:...If I have to give away a CD or download to get the gospel into someone's hands, then so be it.
I was going to buy it, but I am a scumbag and downloaded it illegally*.

Seriously, though - I just saw your youtube promo video & checked out the Amazon samples.  I like what I hear!  As soon as I get some cash, I'll BUY the downloads from Amazon.



* I did NOT download it illegally.
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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:54 am

I don't think you guys get it, it isn't about him making money back from it.
He's not sure if there are enough people interested in it for him to put the money into it.

Basically, he wants to know that if he spends the money to do it, that enough people will WANT to hear new music from him.

That's why I said to go show support....

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Post by KaramKaram on Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:53 pm

839 likes now

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:59 pm

KaramKaram wrote:839 likes now

Thumbs up

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Post by Temple of Blood on Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:31 pm

Bottom line:  DON'T SPEND SO MUCH MONEY MAKING IT.

How much are we talking about anyway?  That's the key question.

You'll never have more "likes" until you put out quality music consistently.

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Post by Temple of Blood on Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:33 pm

Record all the guitars at home and track vocals and drums in the studio. 

Problem solved.  Everyone does it these days, including I believe QUEENSRYCHE.

Folks stuck in the old mindset need to get with the times.

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Post by Staybrite on Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:21 pm

I sure hope they make another album, but I can totally understand if they don't want to shell out 800 hours worth of their own time and upwards of $20,000 of their own money just to move less than 500 albums in sales.
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Post by Temple of Blood on Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:24 pm

Why in the world would they spend 20K on recording an album in 2015?

Do they want to just go to an expensive studio and hang out there?  Or hire a name producer to write their material for them?

Do it yourself!

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Post by Staybrite on Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:17 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:Why in the world would they spend 20K on recording an album in 2015?

I just pulled that number out of the air.  I have seen several kickstarter campaigns in this range for a new album. 
My guess would be that any older band might want the production quality on their new material to come close to their earlier professionally recorded output and they lack the skills to do it themselves.
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Post by Temple of Blood on Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:48 pm

Lacking the skills or being accustomed to recording music one way is really no excuse.  Especially if the alternative is to not release any more music.

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Post by d@v!d on Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:49 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:Record all the guitars at home and track vocals and drums in the studio. 

Problem solved.  Everyone does it these days, including I believe QUEENSRYCHE.

Folks stuck in the old mindset need to get with the times.
I heard they would record at home, but the cassette got jammed in the 4 track...
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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:41 pm

You crack me up, Temple.

You always come off sounding so bitter about other bands.

When was the last time you put out an album, if it's so easy?

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:48 pm

And I think you guys are STILL missing the point...

It isn't about the money.


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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:53 pm

And I am pretty sure that a band like Quensryche, which has made millions of dollars, can afford to buy top of the line equipment for an in home studio.

Not a fair comparison

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Post by exo on Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:30 am

Actually, these days, "top of the line" recording gear doesn't necessarily cost a ton when you are specifically referring to recording guitar and bass tones in a home environment.....assuming that the band has guitars, amps,  and cabs they are happy with, you can grab an SM57 mic and a decent interface for probably under $300, run that into Reaper DAW (stupidly cheap, and the main competitor to Pro Tools), and your computer doesn't have to be a multi thousand dollar beast for all that to work.  It's STUPIDLY cheap to record good guitars these days, and a perfectly reasonable comparison.QR is most certainly NOTrolling in the same dough they were 20 years ago, that is for certain.

All that aside, I TOTALLY "get it" where they're coming from.  doesn't sound to ME like there is a drivin personal interest, but more an "if the fans want us to" type deal, and if there aren't enough "fans", well.........

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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:15 am

Exo,

Of course QR isn't making millions now, but they have made millions over their career. Novella has never come close to that amount of money.

I see a lot of bands that still use studios. I would assume a studio can generally afford better equipment than an individual. So even if someone could buy equipment for their home, I don't see what is so wrong about a band wanting the best they can get and feeling that the best comes from using a studio.

And you may be right about his heart not being in at as much. Who knows.

I know that this rekindling all started with Skull Fest a couple of years ago after the way his performance was received.

Luckily, I recorded a couple of good videos of his performance that he was able to share on his personal page.

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Post by Blake on Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:27 am

I record all my stuff at home. Reason has some basic mastering plugins as well to improve the final product or gear it toward a particular sound (rock, electronic, etc). Personally when I make my Amelioration stuff I set the mastering plugin to Drum n Bass Laughing, I think it gives it a richer sound.

you can make pro quality stuff at home, its just a matter of obtaining the software thats right for you and learning it. I have to admit some DAWs are hard to learn, took me awhile to wrap my head around Reason
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Post by Benny4SR on Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:09 am

I don't think this is a matter of equipment or studios. I think they are trying to rely on past notoriety to see if they still have a fan base. If they really want to record an album, they'll find a way to do it. It used to be a "big deal" to record an album. Not so much anymore. Now the means are there for just about anyone to do it. I would think that they would want to focus on rebuilding the fan base, instead of worrying about how many fans are still there from years ago.
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Post by d@v!d on Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:23 am

exo wrote:All that aside, I TOTALLY "get it" where they're coming from.  doesn't sound to ME like there is a drivin personal interest, but more an "if the fans want us to" type deal, and if there aren't enough "fans", well.........
Yeah, I get that too, but I wonder what happened to good old fashioned narcissism. What about just putting your music out there because you really believe in it and find satisfaction in it of itself?
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Post by Temple of Blood on Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:53 am

NoOneIsHere wrote:You crack me up, Temple.

You always come off sounding so bitter about other bands.

When was the last time you put out an album, if it's so easy?


I didn't say it was "easy".  Sounds like you're the one missing the point.  I'm taking my own advice here.

I'm saying don't give up if you really believe in it and that it doesn't take a ton of money.  Do you understand now?

Asking your fans if you should give up and begging for more attention is lame.  I can understand the impulse, I really do, but I can't condone it.

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exo wrote:Actually, these days, "top of the line" recording gear doesn't necessarily cost a ton when you are specifically referring to recording guitar and bass tones in a home environment.....assuming that the band has guitars, amps,  and cabs they are happy with, you can grab an SM57 mic and a decent interface for probably under $300, run that into Reaper DAW (stupidly cheap, and the main competitor to Pro Tools), and your computer doesn't have to be a multi thousand dollar beast for all that to work.  It's STUPIDLY cheap to record good guitars these days, and a perfectly reasonable comparison.QR is most certainly NOTrolling in the same dough they were 20 years ago, that is for certain.

Bingo!  This is one reason the music scene is flooded with so many releases this day.  Personally, I think it's fantastic.

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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:57 am

Temple of Blood wrote:
NoOneIsHere wrote:You crack me up, Temple.

You always come off sounding so bitter about other bands.

When was the last time you put out an album, if it's so easy?


I didn't say it was "easy".  Sounds like you're the one missing the point.  I'm taking my own advice here.

I'm saying don't give up if you really believe in it and that it doesn't take a ton of money.  Do you understand now?

Asking your fans if you should give up and begging for more attention is lame.  I can understand the impulse, I really do, but I can't condone it.



I really don't think he was "begging"..he was just being transparent. 

I would much rather have that instead of being another Barren Cross....who totally stops answering questions and pretty much disappears after saying they are going to do a new album...which I believe BC has done at least twice to us now

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Benny4SR wrote: I would think that they would want to focus on rebuilding the fan base, instead of worrying about how many fans are still there from years ago.

Absolutely.  Making great music is VERY hard, especially for all of us with families and full-time jobs (meaning most of us).  But too many artists are just willing to rest on their laurels and just live off of past glory instead of continually topping themselves.  It's human nature for sure, but we shouldn't encourage them.

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Temple of Blood wrote:
exo wrote:Actually, these days, "top of the line" recording gear doesn't necessarily cost a ton when you are specifically referring to recording guitar and bass tones in a home environment.....assuming that the band has guitars, amps,  and cabs they are happy with, you can grab an SM57 mic and a decent interface for probably under $300, run that into Reaper DAW (stupidly cheap, and the main competitor to Pro Tools), and your computer doesn't have to be a multi thousand dollar beast for all that to work.  It's STUPIDLY cheap to record good guitars these days, and a perfectly reasonable comparison.QR is most certainly NOTrolling in the same dough they were 20 years ago, that is for certain.

Bingo!  This is one reason the music scene is flooded with so many releases this day.  Personally, I think it's fantastic.

Yeah, but that can also be a bad thing, as a lot of the music being released is garbage.

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Benny4SR wrote: I would think that they would want to focus on rebuilding the fan base, instead of worrying about how many fans are still there from years ago.

Absolutely.  Making great music is VERY hard, especially for all of us with families and full-time jobs (meaning most of us).  But too many artists are just willing to rest on their laurels and just live off of past glory instead of continually topping themselves.  It's human nature for sure, but we shouldn't encourage them.

No doubt! We in 4SR have all had varying degrees of past success (mostly minor), but it's been years since any of us have done anything of note. Like I told the guys, it's like we've essentially started over. It doesn't matter what accomplishments we've made, who we've played with, or what dues we've paid. We are starting from the ground up. Unless you made a MAJOR splash in the industry, you have to approach it like that.
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Post by KaramKaram on Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:46 pm

Wooohooo it looks like this will happen 864 likes on their FB!!!

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Post by Throne of thorns on Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:14 pm

i dont think he is trying to guilt trip at all just putting out his feelers and fair enough. I think they should release a new album despite anything.
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Post by grandeped on Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:03 pm

I'm really glad when bands can record for cheap, and would rather hear a low budget album than no album at all... but you can still tell the difference. Spending more money on the more expensive equipment and hiring people who know what they are doing makes a huge difference. Andy Prickett of The Prayer Chain fame was talking about this in an interview last year. I think him or someone else associated with him had a whole series of blog posts after that that explained why the higher cost route sounds better.

If you can't afford it, then there is nothing wrong with going the cheap route - it will still sound okay to good if you know what you are doing. But I do wish more metal bands had more money to put into recording - the "recorded at home" sound of so many albums is noticeable on so many albums these days. Not the bands fault - I just wish there was more money in it.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:11 am

Agreed, grandeped....

A lot of the established artists still use studios and I am glad they do

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