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Post by My Awesome Timothy on Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:41 am

Retroactive Records are rereleasing both SACRAMENT albums.

Check them out here....

http://retroactiverecords.net/store/sacrament-testimony-of-apocalypse.html

Haunts of Violence also available in the site.


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Re: SACRAMENT ~ Retroactive Records Reissue 2014

Post by Deepfriar on Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:52 am

Thank God for Retroactive records...  they're keeping a lot of this classic Christian metal alive.
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Post by bassdude on Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:34 am

Excellent!
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Re: SACRAMENT ~ Retroactive Records Reissue 2014

Post by Temple of Blood on Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:44 am

Are they remixed or remastered?

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Re: SACRAMENT ~ Retroactive Records Reissue 2014

Post by My Awesome Timothy on Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:48 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:Are they remixed or remastered?

Yep by J Powell at Steinhaus.
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Post by Temple of Blood on Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:11 pm

Just remastered?

Haunts needs a remix more than anything.

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Re: SACRAMENT ~ Retroactive Records Reissue 2014

Post by Tobi Elektrik on Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:00 pm

Back in 1992 there were three ways to store recorded tracks:
1. analog tape
2. digital tape
3. computer hard disc drive

Any material on hard disc would have been mixed, transfered to tape and erased from the HDD to make space for new projects. Analog and digital tapes were expensive. To save tapes it was common to bounce several tracks onto one single tape in the recording / mixing process.
In most cases any tapes got erased after the mixing / mastering was finished.
The only thing that might have survived is the original mix.
The chances to find the original tracks for an album like that (=no major label rock'n'roll stars) are very, very, very small.

And if the material would have survived it's a lot of work (=very expensive) to transfer the tracks and remix them from scratch.

I can't remember any Christian metal album from the 80's or early 90's that got reissued REMIXED and remastered.
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Post by Temple of Blood on Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:16 pm

That's very disappointing but thanks for the explanation.

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Post by Drawnsword on Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:26 pm

Haunts is a killer album, like Betrayal i wish they recorded more. Never been able to figure out what the cover is depicting though?
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Re: SACRAMENT ~ Retroactive Records Reissue 2014

Post by xMetalMarkx on Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:19 pm

Tobi Elektrik wrote:Back in 1992 there were three ways to store recorded tracks:
1. analog tape
2. digital tape
3. computer hard disc drive

Any material on hard disc would have been mixed, transfered to tape and erased from the HDD to make space for new projects. Analog and digital tapes were expensive. To save tapes it was common to bounce several tracks onto one single tape in the recording / mixing process.
In most cases any tapes got erased after the mixing / mastering was finished.
The only thing that might have survived is the original mix.
The chances to find the original tracks for an album like that (=no major label rock'n'roll stars) are very, very, very small.

And if the material would have survived it's a lot of work (=very expensive) to transfer the tracks and remix them from scratch.

I can't remember any Christian metal album from the 80's or early 90's that got reissued REMIXED and remastered.

I still have the multi-track masters for all the stuff I recorded in the 1990s. 

Never say never--The Pillars of Humanity got a full remix some 20 years later! Smile
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Post by F1R3PR00F on Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:49 pm

that's awesome news! it's sad that testimony is on amazon for like 50 bucks used
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Re: SACRAMENT ~ Retroactive Records Reissue 2014

Post by Nyx74 on Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:17 pm

For anyone interested; @First Paradox the original Haunts is still for sale for only $10

http://www.firstparadox.com/main.php?showdep=Low%20prices&cat=Quality%20metal&ShowLang=EN
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Post by zelote on Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:29 pm

Sounds very interesting.

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Re: SACRAMENT ~ Retroactive Records Reissue 2014

Post by My Awesome Timothy on Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:27 pm

Metal 1  These reissues sound killer!!!
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Post by oteis on Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:50 pm

Nyx74 wrote:For anyone interested; @First Paradox the original Haunts is still for sale for only $10

http://www.firstparadox.com/main.php?showdep=Low%20prices&cat=Quality%20metal&ShowLang=EN
As far as i know it's the M8 issue at FirstParadox
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Re: SACRAMENT ~ Retroactive Records Reissue 2014

Post by arttieTHE1manparty on Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:47 am

I have the originals, the demo, and the M8 stuff. Not sure about these, as a lot of "remasters" are just louder and actually lose dynamics. Any input hete?

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Re: SACRAMENT ~ Retroactive Records Reissue 2014

Post by cliffenstein on Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:02 pm

arttieTHE1manparty wrote:I have the originals, the demo, and the M8 stuff. Not sure about these, as a lot of "remasters" are just louder and actually lose dynamics.  Any input hete?

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These are not just LOUDER...shame on you for thinking I'd do something like that!  These are both far superior when compared to the original releases.  I'm quite proud of both.
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Re: SACRAMENT ~ Retroactive Records Reissue 2014

Post by My Awesome Timothy on Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:06 am

cliffenstein wrote:
arttieTHE1manparty wrote:I have the originals, the demo, and the M8 stuff. Not sure about these, as a lot of "remasters" are just louder and actually lose dynamics.  Any input hete?

Arttie

These are not just LOUDER...shame on you for thinking I'd do something like that!  These are both far superior when compared to the original releases.  I'm quite proud of both.

LOL!!!  Rolf 1
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Post by arttieTHE1manparty on Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:17 am

Lol....didn't know you did them, Cliffy... I bragged you up in a previous thread.

Friends? Smile

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Post by cliffenstein on Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:18 am

Oh, I know, Arttie...we are good.  I was kidding around.  Seriously...both are way better, though.
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Re: SACRAMENT ~ Retroactive Records Reissue 2014

Post by hellig on Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:32 pm

When 'Testimony...' came out I remember how they were saying it was heavier than Vengeance. It did not disappoint.

I might get it.
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Re: SACRAMENT ~ Retroactive Records Reissue 2014

Post by My Awesome Timothy on Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:09 pm



My excellent new purchases!!!!


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Re: SACRAMENT ~ Retroactive Records Reissue 2014

Post by Bill Roxx on Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:40 pm

These were some of the top releases for 2014! LOVE them myself!

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Post by Pirate on Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:18 pm

I SO wish these would be available as digital downloads in lossless format. I have no need for physical discs but I do want that lossless quality
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Post by ToccaFerro on Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:01 pm

Just ordered Testimony. I'm psyched.

I gave away Haunts years ago-- I'm terribly curious about the remaster though!
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Re: SACRAMENT ~ Retroactive Records Reissue 2014

Post by cliffenstein on Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:49 pm

The remastered Haunts Of Violence has a non stop 4 on the floor feel to it now that makes it totally fun to listen to. I did not like this album at all when it was originally released. Now I love it.
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Post by abbeyroad2 on Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:00 pm

cliffenstein wrote:
arttieTHE1manparty wrote:I have the originals, the demo, and the M8 stuff. Not sure about these, as a lot of "remasters" are just louder and actually lose dynamics.  Any input hete?

Arttie

These are not just LOUDER...shame on you for thinking I'd do something like that!  These are both far superior when compared to the original releases.  I'm quite proud of both.

I'm curious if you had anything to do with the 2004 remaster of this album? If not then are you saying that your work on the 2014 version is an improvement over the 2004 as well as an improvement over the original?

PS: I like what Retroactive did with the sound of the early Deliverance stuff.
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Re: SACRAMENT ~ Retroactive Records Reissue 2014

Post by force perspective on Sat Nov 05, 2016 2:02 pm

Any remaster Cliffy does is better than what came out previously. I have yet be disappointed with Steinhaus remastering.
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Re: SACRAMENT ~ Retroactive Records Reissue 2014

Post by deathisgain on Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:29 pm

Arttie and Cliffy, man there are two ghosts from the past.
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:44 pm

deathisgain wrote:Arttie and Cliffy, man there are two ghosts from the past.
I cant believe how 2014 seems like yesterday yet it was already almost 3 years ago
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Post by ReckonedDead on Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:05 am

I might have to pick these up off of ebay. Thanks for sharing!
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