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Post by 11razorwire on Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:13 pm

I watched an interview with Ronnie from several years ago where he stated he indeed was not into satanism in any way. It was on YouTube but I'd have to fish around for it. He came across as a very intelligent guy to me who seemed legit regarding not being into that stuff.
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Post by MikeInFla on Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:28 pm

How could a guy who sings like this be into satan??

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Post by Black Rider on Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:30 pm

He was more of a yin/yang kind of guy who had issues with his RCC upbringing.
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Post by heck on Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:58 am

I thought he was an atheist and saw all supernatural things as fiction or fantasy. Having said that, the extended live version of Heaven and Hell always bothered me when he rejects the angel, embraces the little black sheep and makes a conscious decision to burn in hell. Even for fiction, from his view, that’s pretty dark. He did this on Live Evil but also with the reincarnated band Heaven and Hell (The Devil You Know tour).

As a side note, the song Holy Diver is about Jesus Christ visiting hell after dying on the cross and it’s from the perspective of the devil, who fears the Son of God. Some theologians say this is when Christ sets the captives free (those under the old covenant) and takes the keys of death and hades from Satan. Dio obviously had some religious training and leveraged that in various lyrics.

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Post by WildWorld on Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:12 pm

heck wrote:

As a side note, the song Holy Diver is about Jesus Christ visiting hell after dying on the cross and it’s from the perspective of the devil, who fears the Son of God.  Some theologians say this is when Christ sets the captives free (those under the old covenant) and takes the keys of death and hades from Satan.  Dio obviously had some religious training and leveraged that in various lyrics.

When did you read this? Looking through the lyrics I dont really see it (to be honest, I cant really make heads or tails about what it's about, it looks like he just wrote a bunch of random sentences that rhyme and made a song out of it, I can say the same for most of his stuff actually).

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Post by heck on Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:02 pm

From a blog where a dude put forth a pretty convinving argument that explains the various metaphors:

Someone by the name of Nightrain50 came up with this interpretation on another website, I think he pretty much nailed it.

Holy Diver is about Jesus Christ's descent into Hades after being crucified.

1.Holy Diver= Jesus Christ descending into Hades, the realm of the wicked not the holy.

2.You've been down too long in the midnight sea= Midnight sea is Hades, the absence of God, God is light so this place is void of it.

3.Oh what's becoming of me= What are you doing here? You don't belong here, this is the realm of the wicked, you are holy, what are you planning to do to me(us)

4.Ride the tiger= tiger is a symbol for a couple things mainly Jesus Christ, but also followers of Buddha ride tigers to show their supernatural ability to overcome evil, Shiva the destroyer rode a tiger, and also Islam believes tigers punish sinners for God.

5.You can see his stripes but you know he's clean, Oh don't you see what I mean= Jesus Christ again, by his stripes we are healed, by his blood we are cleansed. Also they(those in hades) can see his stripes(his marks of crucifixion), the marks of a sinner, even though they all know he is clean(innocent)

6.Gotta get away Holy Diver= You need to leave this place, you don't belong here. You are innocent this is the realm of the wicked.

7.Shiny diamonds, like the eyes of a cat in the black and blue, something is coming for you= Jesus is a beacon of light in Hades, everyone can see him coming. Cats are a symbol of power and warfare, the black and blue is the absence of light and all encompassing pain. It stands for Hades.

8.Race for the morning= Run to Jesus Christ he is the morning star, Rev 22:16 "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

9.You can hide in the sun 'till you see the light, Oh we will pray it's all right= Hide in the son(Jesus Christ) until you see the light.(God the Father is the Light) we'll put our faith in Jesus that he will take us out of this place(hades) and to the light(God)

10.Gotta get away-get away= we have to get out of here, this place sucks

11.Between the velvet lies= velvet is gentleness or caution, often concealing strength or determination and a profit or gain beyond what is expected or due. Jesus is the velvet lie. His intentions are not clear. Satan has been fooled, he thought he had won when he had Jesus crucified, in fact he has sealed his own fate. Jesus is here to claim what's his. All the souls of the fallen that will but believe in him can now be saved from Adam until now. Remember all fell short of the glory of God but one(Jesus), this means that all the prophets of the Old Testament were not reaching heaven. Not yet, but they are now.

12.There's a truth that's hard as steel= Truth is the word of God. Steel is the sword of Jesus's mouth Rev 2:16 Repent of your sin, or I will come to you suddenly and fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

13.The vision never dies= The vision is the law, Proverbs 29:18 Where there is no vision, the people are unrestrained, But happy is he who keeps the law. The law will never die because Jesus has finally fulfilled the law, allowing us to have eternal life with God through him.

14.Life's a never ending wheel= Death has been defeated. 1st Corinthians 15:56 "The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law." Romans *:2 "For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death."


15.Holy Diver, You're the star of the masquerade, No need to look so afraid= Jesus played the part of the sacrificial lamb, allowing himself to be crucified for our sins. He was humiliated, mocked, beaten, and crucified when in reality he was God in the flesh, the lion, and could have called down the wrath of the heavens on his enemies. He didn't, he played the part of the masquerade(fooling Satan) allowing himself to fulfill the law and save mankind.

16.Jump on the tiger= take a leap of faith and believe in Jesus Christ.

17.You can feel his heart but you know he's mean= Jesus is the Lamb(Love and Forgiveness) be he is also the Lion(he will judge and punish the nonbelievers)

18. Some light can never be seen= 2 Corinthians 4:18 So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.

19.Holy Diver, sole survivor, your honor's clean= Jesus Christ the only man to not fall short of the law but instead has fulfilled it. You are innocent, your honor is restored. The resurrection of Jesus Christ and all the souls who believe in him.

20. Holy Diver, holy diver, never cut in the middle coming after you= To have you garments cut from the waist down or your beard shaven was an insult put on someone who offended to make them appear a fool or as a slave. No one who comes after Jesus will be cut in the middle because our sins are paid in full by Jesus Christ himself.

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Post by deathisgain on Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:18 am

This just came across my YouTube feed yesterday. Here is an interview from 2015 that he did with BangerTV. He talks about his views and the meaning behind "Holy Diver".

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Post by Temple of Blood on Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:27 pm

Holy Diver, like most Dio lyrics, are utterly meaningless.

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Post by deathisgain on Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:43 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:Holy Diver, like most Dio lyrics, are utterly meaningless.

In the video I posted above, he says that it is about a messianic figure on an far distant planet where the people are begging him not to give his life for them.
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