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Post by MikeInFla on Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:29 am

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Post by deathisgain on Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:25 pm

It's funny how a lot of fans see "Against the Law" differently than Michael does. When I first heard it, I loved it. It was exactly what I wanted at that time. Musically I think it is one of their tightest albums and most consistently musically.
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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:38 pm

I totally understand and respect Michael feelings about Against the Law. It's mainly because of what happened behind the scenes.
But, compare their behaviour, decisions regarding clothes and appearance to what musically is on the album is like comparing oranges and apples.

The album is really good and it has a great vocal work on it. Some of my favorite Stryper songs are from this album.
What can we say about that? It is some sort of magic that happens in music industry. Even though everything looks to be out of place and time a good album comes to frution.

It is a similar thing when I think of Deliverance what a joke. Even though there was a lot of fighting between jimmy and george, even though they wished to quit the label at that time and besides the jokes itself, it is a stellar album.
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Post by Erasmus on Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:34 am

deathisgain wrote:It's funny how a lot of fans see "Against the Law" differently than Michael does. When I first heard it, I loved it. It was exactly what I wanted at that time. Musically I think it is one of their tightest albums and most consistently musically.

I feel exactly the same. I really disliked the sound of IGWT but ATL was awesome.
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Post by Black Rider on Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:32 pm

Why is it bands do some of their best work when they are struggling?
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Post by bassdude on Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:04 pm

Black Rider wrote:Why is it bands do some of their best work when they are struggling?
Struggles produce strong emotions, both positive and negative, which makes for good songwriting.
ATL is very near the top of my favorite Stryper albums...great songs and very singable.
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Post by Superjuice on Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:23 pm

Against the Law is better than any of their more recent output.
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Post by Black Rider on Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:34 pm

I actually agree Superjuice, the new ones are kind of sounding alike.
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Re: Michael Sweet - "We were complete morons"

Post by eatbugs on Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:36 am

Musically it's their best 80's output.  Lyrically it's their worst.  It was the first Stryper I bought and if I didn't know they were a Christian band I wouldn't have thought it was Christian (as a teenager I had no concept of "Christians in a band").

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Post by Highway Star on Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:23 am

Superjuice wrote:Against the Law is better than any of their more recent output.

I agree, Its easily my favorite Stryper release. I must be in the minority because almost everyone else seems to love their last several albums but something just seems off or missing in their recent work to me. Maybe I’m just an old geezer stuck in the past.
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Post by jaydeecrawson on Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:00 am

Against the Law is my fav Stryper album and I have the record flat framed on my wall in my man cave

it's real, raw, ballsy, rebellious and there are some awesome songs on it

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Post by Temple of Blood on Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:25 am

Superjuice wrote:Against the Law is better than any of their more recent output.

That's my impression as well.

It seems common that artists associate their art with that time in their lives, and it colors their perception.

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Post by messiaen77 on Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:56 am

I thought maybe that was a new song from his upcoming solo album.

As for ATL, I loved that album and that was the album I listened to most during their hiatus.  I hated IGWT, but ATL sounded like the sound the rest of the hair metal world was moving toward.  Lyrically, I still heard the Christian content, but wasn't beaten over the head with it, and at that point in my life, that was what I was looking for.  I understand Michael's view on it, but I respectfully disagree.
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Post by eatbugs on Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:22 am

messiaen77 wrote:I thought maybe that was a new song from his upcoming solo album.
lol!

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Post by Follower of Jesus on Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:26 pm

I liked the songwriting on ATL but I’m not a big fan of the guitar tone. The mix was terrific; the bass really popped and gave the record some real punch. In fact, besides the guitar tone, I really like that record. It’d be interesting if they did the “Second Coming” treatment and re-recorded a lot of those songs with the right guitar tone and modern production. Here’s hoping they re-record songs from both IGWT and ATL.
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Post by Highway Star on Sat Apr 07, 2018 4:17 pm

Please,  NO modern production
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Post by Airola on Sat Apr 07, 2018 4:41 pm

For me Against the Law was a disappointment. Not because of lyrics. Not because of the sound. Not because of their looks. I just didn't care for most of the songs.

I've always loved In God We Trust and I loved how that album had super catchy tunes almost constantly from the beginning to the end. There might've been some boring ones here and there but it had great songs in the beginning, in the middle and in the end. Against the Law only caught my attention with the last three songs. The eight songs before the last three did nothing for me. I think I've grown to like some of them but I don't really love any of them. The last three are amazing though and they redeem the whole album.

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Post by MikeInFla on Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:31 pm

Against The Law has always been my favorite album by them. I also listened to this most during the hiatus. But I love the new stuff as well. I didn't mind the change in direction or image at all on Against The Law. It was still just Stryper to me. Still a positive message and still rockin' songs.
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Post by bigtreads on Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:49 am

Airola wrote:For me Against the Law was a disappointment. Not because of lyrics. Not because of the sound. Not because of their looks. I just didn't care for most of the songs.

I've always loved In God We Trust and I loved how that album had super catchy tunes almost constantly from the beginning to the end. There might've been some boring ones here and there but it had great songs in the beginning, in the middle and in the end. Against the Law only caught my attention with the last three songs. The eight songs before the last three did nothing for me. I think I've grown to like some of them but I don't really love any of them. The last three are amazing though and they redeem the whole album.

my thoughts exactly
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Post by mr.electric40 on Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:56 pm

I agree with everything in this thread.... ATL was one of their best albums... period..
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Post by Driven on Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:35 pm

eatbugs wrote:
messiaen77 wrote:I thought maybe that was a new song from his upcoming solo album.
lol!

Comment of the day, I have to say.
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