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Post by Friday13th on Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:29 am



It's here, folks. It sounds a bit like "Yahweh", and it's definitely a heavy song. 

My reaction when the chorus came on:  Rolf 2 
I bet it's good live!  Razz
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Post by JPK72 on Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:42 am

drums are way too loud and no bass and that chorus, just terrible
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Post by Pershing1134 on Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:54 am

JPK72 wrote:drums are way too loud and no bass and that chorus, just terrible

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Re: New Stryper Song "Take It To The Cross"

Post by bodachi on Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:10 am

I listened to it on my tablet.  The song was so heavy I almost dropped it...

Seriously, though - I do not like the chorus.


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Re: New Stryper Song "Take It To The Cross"

Post by eatbugs on Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:17 am

I just heard it too.  The chorus is very un-Stryper.  The verses are awesome and I like the death metal growls.

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Post by cailen on Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:13 am

Well...I listened to it one time.

Old School Black Sabbath Riff  mixed with

Old School True / Epic / Power - Metal Background vocals.

Traditional Stryper guitar sound with great Duett sologuitas in the end for which Stryper is known and liked for.

Sound is a bit THIN, with less pressure I agree.

Experimental Chorus, something new, maybe fresh,

let´s wait after a few more listenings

new ways also in the death metal vocals in the end.



I like it because it has all the traditional Stryper trademarks
and they also have the courage to try something new
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Post by heck on Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:05 am

When did Dale Thompson join Stryper?

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Post by Airola on Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:35 am

The guitar sound is a bit too sharp and thin, but man I don't know what issue people have with that chorus.

It certainly was unexpected but I love it! It kinda has the same fire and fury the chorus of Saved by Love on No More Hell to Pay had, but with Michael going for some sort of a Rob Halford and Guy Ritter sound with it and he does it without holding it back at all.

Definitely the best part of the song!

My interest towards the new album got a new boost from this.

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Post by exo on Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:53 am

On first listen.....the switch from the verse to the chorus feels really abrupt, but I think I'd get used to it with repeated listens.  Right now, I love every individual segment of the song, just not sure about how it's stitched together.

This is a promising start, for me.  I've always loved my Stryper  HEAVY....and to add some harsh vocals in as well?  SO right up my alley......

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Re: New Stryper Song "Take It To The Cross"

Post by Superjuice on Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:33 am

Supports my theory that 50% of all metal songs are various versions of "Children of the Grave"
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Re: New Stryper Song "Take It To The Cross"

Post by cailen on Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:50 am

Superjuice wrote:Supports my theory that 50% of all metal songs are various versions of "Children of the Grave"

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Post by deathisgain on Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:57 am

exo wrote:On first listen.....the switch from the verse to the chorus feels really abrupt, but I think I'd get used to it with repeated listens.  Right now, I love every individual segment of the song, just not sure about how it's stitched together.

This is a promising start, for me.  I've always loved my Stryper  HEAVY....and to add some harsh vocals in as well?  SO right up my alley......

I agree with this. I also thought the intro was a little too long for me, but that might be just for the video.
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Re: New Stryper Song "Take It To The Cross"

Post by exo on Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:54 am

deathisgain wrote:
exo wrote:On first listen.....the switch from the verse to the chorus feels really abrupt, but I think I'd get used to it with repeated listens.  Right now, I love every individual segment of the song, just not sure about how it's stitched together.

This is a promising start, for me.  I've always loved my Stryper  HEAVY....and to add some harsh vocals in as well?  SO right up my alley......

I agree with this. I also thought the intro was a little too long for me, but that might be just for the video.

I REALLY hope so.  I listened to it on headphones first, and ignored the video aspect of it......that first 1:15 is a looooooong time for just audio.

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Post by metaldude on Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:15 am

Never thought I would.  Metal 2 to a Stryper song.
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Post by oldschooldoom on Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:24 am

I love it!!!
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Post by Fearless For The King on Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:34 am

I really like it. First listen through, I'm impressed. When that chorus hit for the first time I was like whaaa....? But by the time the verse came back I was into it. I like the fact that it's different. If this was some new band and not Stryper the chorus wouldn't be all that "shocking" to me. I like it!
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Post by Temple of Blood on Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:19 am

Awful!

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Post by Friday13th on Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:30 am

Someone in the comments mentioned Halford's Fight - War of Words. That's a spot on comparison.
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Post by Livna on Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:32 am

Friday13th wrote:Someone in the comments mentioned Halford's Fight - War of Words. That's a spot on comparison.
Yeah I can totally see that
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Post by Galations6.7 on Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:43 am

Very promising, a sure buy for me. I've always loved the first 3 albums and actually hoped for something like this after "Yellow and Black Attack."
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Post by jaydeecrawson on Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:49 am

luv Stryper, but the chorus on this song is just ridiculous. omg it's hilarious

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Post by Temple of Blood on Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:49 am

Friday13th wrote:Someone in the comments mentioned Halford's Fight - War of Words. That's a spot on comparison.

Hardly!  "War of Words" is a masterpiece compared to this.  The songs flowed better and had WAY better hooks than this, even if the riffs were beginner-level stuff.


This is someone who doesn't listen to extreme metal trying to ape it (superficially) to appeal to youngsters.


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Post by Andreas89 on Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:56 am

Nice song, I get the fuss about the chorus though Razz
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Post by exo on Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:31 pm

After 5 listens....this is essentially Children of the Grave mashed up with a random Fight track, and honestly, the arrangement is just NOT good and the hope I had that it'd grow on me has waned significantly.

I'll appreciate the attempt at something new even if I'm not necessarily fond of the result.

Also, the first 4 listens were out of a phone speaker, that last listen was with the phone plugged into my car stereo......and I IMMMEDIATELY understood the production complaints.

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Post by alldatndensum on Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:33 pm

I love the verses and the solo.  The chorus sounds too much like they are trying to be someone or something other than Stryper.

The death metal vocals are so out of place on this that they are funny.  Were they trying to do a parody of themselves with this?  That's how it comes off to me.

I hope the rest of the album is better.
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Post by WildWorld on Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:10 pm

The issue I have with the chorus is that it's just shouted with no attempt at melody. Even at their heaviest, Stryper made sure to have good melodic choruses.
Edit: Now that I think about it, it reminds me of the choruses on Metallica's St. Anger album, "Purify" in paticular. Still, the verses are good, so it does have that going for it.


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Post by Fundy on Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:17 pm

I thought it was great, although I just listened to it on my small TV so can't comment on the sound issues!
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Post by eatbugs on Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:40 pm

WildWorld wrote:The issue I have with the chorus is that it's just shouted with no attempt at melody. Even at their heaviest, Stryper made sure to have good melodic choruses.

This and that it's just the title repeated over and over.  We all know Michael Sweet can write better lyrics than that (even the verses prove it).

I like how heavy it is and I like how it's accented with harsh vocals.

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Post by Temple of Blood on Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:04 pm

WildWorld wrote:The issue I have with the chorus is that it's just shouted with no attempt at melody.

Bingo!

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Post by Erasmus on Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:00 pm

exo wrote:After 5 listens....this is essentially Children of the Grave mashed up with a random Fight track, and honestly, the arrangement is just NOT good and the hope I had that it'd grow on me has waned significantly.

I'll appreciate the attempt at something new even if I'm not necessarily fond of the result.

Also, the first 4 listens were out of a phone speaker, that last listen was with the phone plugged into my car stereo......and I IMMMEDIATELY understood the production complaints.

I want to like it but it ain't happening. This is probably the only Stryper song after "The Reign" that I would happily press skip on. Mind you there is a huge catalogue of songs so a misstep here and there is expected. 

I really think it is time that Stryper uses an outside producer. This song needs serious bottom end which is lacking.
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Post by Friday13th on Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:06 pm

You can download the track on itunes and Amazon. Unfortunately, it does have the one minute of ambiance at the beginning. 

As for the production, I have noted that Fallen was a bit high on the treble/drum cymbals, but yeah this could really use some bass. The guitars also have a high tone even when chugging.
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Post by Black Rider on Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:47 pm

Is this really the final mix? It's like a demo version.
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Post by exo on Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:52 pm

Apparently, the harsh vocals were performed by Matt Bachand (guitars, backing vox) of Shadows Fall......and it was annoying fed 6 weeks back and we all somehow missed it was a "thing"...LOL

http://bravewords.com/news/stryper-new-album-to-feature-death-metal-guest-vocals-by-shadows-fall-guitarist-matt-bachand

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Post by Follower of Jesus on Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:06 am

I have mixed feelings about this one.

What I like:
- The heaviness...haven't heard Stryper this heavy, maybe ever
- The lyrics...excellent!
- Lots of reverb on the drums - they're getting closer and closer to that big 80's drum sound that I love
- Wililngness to experiment
- The growls at the end - I think this is awesome, and I don't even like death metal

What I don't like:
- The guitars are buried in the mix
- The chorus is just awful
- The distortion on the second half of the guitar solo
- The 1:20 ambiance in the beginning (please, oh please let this be a separate track on the CD)

I'll give the rest of the album a chance on Spotify, but based on what I've heard with this song, I will not be running out and buying it the day of release like I did NMHTP and Fallen. That makes me sad. But hopefully the rest of the album will be better. There were a few songs on those last two albums that I'm not too keen on, too. Few albums can be perfect. If the rest of it is good, I'll buy it.
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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:41 am

Wow!!! I just read each comment on this thread and I am simply stocked!

I just didn't realize it would be a love or hate song (much more hate than love).

I am actually impressed by the song and it is the best stryper song I've heard in ages. I was sick tired of them trying to do the same kind of song over and over again.
It was about time to do something diferent.
The only complaint I can understand is about the chorus verse being repeated over and over again, but Stryper was never a good reference in lyrics for me. In Stryper cathalogue, there are a few good lyrics, many lyrics that are "ok" and a few awful lyrics.
That said, when it comew to Stryper, I don't have great expectations about the lyrics and this one is fine for me.

My comment was based on a first listen. I will listen to it a few times more and try to check the production, the bass and every
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:06 am

I like that they are doing something different as well.

I agree the chorus was abrupt at first, but I like it
I can see it growing on me, I just think it might get annoying after awhile, with how much it is repeated already

The growl vocals are interesting, they are not bad, but they are not as major as I thought they would be, they really played it down, to not alienate too many fans, which I get

Overall, good song, gonna pre-order, but definitely just a average modern Stryper song, in terms of replay-ability
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Post by jeffcorpse on Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:37 am

I look forward to this! Glad they're staying heavy and experimenting.
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Post by Tobi Elektrik on Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:27 am

TAKE ME TO THE BUS! TAKE ME TO THE BUS!!!
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:49 pm

I saw this over on CHM (go figure Razz )

I realized it had'nt been posted here yet

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Post by Superjuice on Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:58 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:Awful!
 
LOL!

Classic ToB reaction.
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Post by heck on Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:00 pm

The tune should be serious but the “chorus” makes me LAUGH every single time. BUT if I had to choose between this and a crappy ballad (ex: All Over Again) I choose THIS.


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Post by Erasmus on Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:06 pm

After a couple more listens I don't dislike it as much as I originally did.

Mmmmm, Chicken in the Crust.
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Post by HeavyLighter on Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:23 pm

I love the way Sweet uses his voice. He is still great singer and age doesn´t seem to bite it.

But... the chorus is a total turn off for me. I usually love when bands are stepping outside of their comfort zones, but this isn´t working.

But this is just one song from the album. I´d love to hear more.

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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:46 am

I was just thinking about how most of you grew up with a so-called metal gods band whose one of its most popular song has nothing in the choruses but repeteadly saying "breaking the law".

Now you criticize Stryper for doing the something similar.

Can someone explain this???
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Post by exo on Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:44 am

Thiago-Brazil wrote:I was just thinking about how most of you grew up with a so-called metal gods band whose one of its most popular song has nothing in the choruses but repeteadly saying "breaking the law".

Now you criticize Stryper for doing the something similar.

Can someone explain this???


Grew up during that timeframe, I didn't like 80's Priest until 2007, still prefer the Ripper era to anything prior to Painkiller, and out of the 80's stuff, my favorite album is Turbo.  Heresy, I know....


I think most people are complaining about the EXECUTION of the chorus, rather than JUST the repetitive nature of it.

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Post by Hardcore Christian on Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:57 pm

exo wrote:
Thiago-Brazil wrote:I was just thinking about how most of you grew up with a so-called metal gods band whose one of its most popular song has nothing in the choruses but repeteadly saying "breaking the law".

Now you criticize Stryper for doing the something similar.

Can someone explain this???


Grew up during that timeframe, I didn't like 80's Priest until 2007, still prefer the Ripper era to anything prior to Painkiller, and out of the 80's stuff, my favorite album is Turbo.  Heresy, I know....


I think most people are complaining about the EXECUTION of the chorus, rather than JUST the repetitive nature of it.
Repetitive is sometimes good or bad, sometimes it makes it super catchy

This chorus is already slightly annoying for me, without it being repeated a bunch of times

Anyway still a good song
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Post by WildWorld on Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:10 pm

Thiago-Brazil wrote:I was just thinking about how most of you grew up with a so-called metal gods band whose one of its most popular song has nothing in the choruses but repeteadly saying "breaking the law".

Now you criticize Stryper for doing the something similar.

Can someone explain this???
At least Breaking the Law's chorus flowed naturally with the rest of the song. This song sounds like it's going to build up to a dramatic chorus, then you get something that sounds like it belongs on Metallica's St. Anger album (only with real drums).

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Re: New Stryper Song "Take It To The Cross"

Post by stevegarveyfan on Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:45 pm

On first listen, I do NOT like that chorus.
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Re: New Stryper Song "Take It To The Cross"

Post by Opeth3232 on Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:18 am

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Thiago-Brazil wrote:I was just thinking about how most of you grew up with a so-called metal gods band whose one of its most popular song has nothing in the choruses but repeteadly saying "breaking the law".

Now you criticize Stryper for doing the something similar.

Can someone explain this???


Grew up during that timeframe, I didn't like 80's Priest until 2007, still prefer the Ripper era to anything prior to Painkiller, and out of the 80's stuff, my favorite album is Turbo.  Heresy, I know....


I think most people are complaining about the EXECUTION of the chorus, rather than JUST the repetitive nature of it.
Spot on to the last commenter
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Re: New Stryper Song "Take It To The Cross"

Post by Fearless For The King on Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:40 pm

 This song sounds like it's going to build up to a dramatic chorus, then you get something that sounds like it belongs on Metallica's St. Anger album (only with real drums).



It's not that bad!  lol!
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