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Post by Bill Roxx on Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:02 pm

Deliverance fans are you ready? 

The Subversive Kind arrives worldwide on February 23, 2018!

Who’s ready to see and hear a lot more from the Big D this year?

Check it out...


https://billroxx.wordpress.com/2018/01/19/deliverance-return-to-unleash-the-subversive-kind/
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Post by alldatndensum on Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:25 pm

I will check it out when it releases but I don't know if I will get this or not.

Now, when Eraserhead comes out, I'll be all over that.  I loved the more Bowie-eque version of Deliverance and Eraserhead is supposed to be more in that vein.
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Post by Bill Roxx on Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:48 am

Yeah if you don’t like straight up thrash like Slayer Testament etc, it won’t be up your alley.
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Post by cailen on Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:45 am

Hi! I wanted to preorder the CD.

 But the program calculated 12.00 $ for shipping to germany so this will be
 $ 22.58 for the oversears is that correct? 

Or should I better wait until nordic mission will have some in stock
for us europeans?

 I am looking very forward to this release!
 I love to hear the new THRASH tunes from the big D !


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Post by Soldier777 on Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:11 pm

I will order the CD. I heard the Blackhand and I liked it. My preferred D albums are the first 4 up to Stay and most of As Above over half of Learn and some of Hear What I Say. Over all I prefer their faster speed songs. I think I will like this new one but I noticed on Blackhand Jimny's voice don't get as high as the earlier albums. Anyway, I'll likely order it from Roxx with another CD or 2 to save on shipping.
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Post by Livna on Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:30 pm

I haven’t heard the new song yet but I’ve heard that people are comparing this record to Slayer’s Reign In Blood
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Post by oldschooldoom on Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:06 am

Welp, I have listened twice and still don't understand the controversial album artwork. LOL, I am not offended just trying to make the connection. Here are the lyrics that still don't give hint at why children are made to appear like little devils.

http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/deliverance/thesubversivekind.html
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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:24 pm

Thanks for posting the lyrics. I was looking for it everywhere.
I still don't get the artwork either. I hope this is not the art in the t-shirt I ordered. I would rather to have those skulls with thorns and blood.
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Post by Soldier777 on Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:55 pm

I just ordered the CD. Looking forward to some thrashing!
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Post by Airola on Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:21 pm

CD Baby has samples of every song in the album:
https://store.cdbaby.com/cd/deliverance24

I'm glad several of those short samples have these certain types of little hooks at some points that I was hoping for. Based on these samples I think I will enjoy it way more than As Above, So Below and Hear What I Say.

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Post by sentient 6 on Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:03 pm

...eh...after looking at some of the lyrics, if I feel like listening to some thrash i'll just throw on a Lazarus AD cd instead of getting this.
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Post by heck on Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:09 am

Album is on Spotify

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Post by jeffcorpse on Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:11 am

Can't wait to get this! Sounds AMAZING!
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Post by MikeInFla on Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:55 am

I've been spinning it in my truck since the CD came in. An enjoyable listen.
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Post by Fearless For The King on Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:00 am

I'm definitely going to pick this up, sounds pretty awesome!
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Post by Airola on Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:52 pm

Another set of samples can be heard on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Subversive-Kind-Deliverance/dp/B07957S3WX/

I think some of the samples here are taken from a better spot than in CD Baby's site.
For example while on the CD Baby samples the fast riff in Center of It All was immediately heard, the way it happens on the Amazon sample in the last half of the 30 sec clip is wayyyy more effective.


I'm definitely going to buy this at some point. I think I'm going to wait until the physical CD is available in Europe somewhere so that I can avoid too high shipping costs (it's $12,99 + $14 for shipping - ouch... hurts my wallet a bit too much).
Or then I just cave in and just buy the mp3 files. Nevertheless I want to buy this album in one way or another!

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Post by deathisgain on Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:18 pm

Jimmy did an interview with As the Story Grows about the record. Heads up on a couple of curse words in it.

http://www.asthestorygrows.com/7858daa6
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Post by Airola on Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:38 pm

deathisgain wrote:Jimmy did an interview with As the Story Grows about the record. Heads up on a couple of curse words in it.

http://www.asthestorygrows.com/7858daa6

Oh wow those samples sound GREAT! I was pretty excited of the samples on CD Baby and Amazon but these heard in this interview are even better!
I think I'll have to buy it digitally before eventually looking for a physical copy.

Like... wow, check out 17:50 forwards... That is some FURIOUS stuff right there!

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Post by Airola on Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:58 pm

I finally bought the digital album.
I've now listened the first three track and I'm LOVING IT!

Too bad one of my metal pet peeves happens in the first track:
There's an amazing riff but it's played for like 10 seconds and then it's gone and never head again!
The opening of the fast part in the middle of the first track is one of my favorite things I've heard in a Deliverance record - heck, even in ANY metal record! They play one round of it, then another with vocals on top of it and then the riff changes and isn't as great as what it just was. I would've LOVED to hear that riff as the main riff of some song with those faaaaast drums.

Megadeth is one of the worst offenders of this pet peeve of mine. There are many Megadeth songs where some cool as heck riff appears for just a moment and it's never used again. Sure, it's kind of a hook that makes me want to listen to the song again, but I often end up looping the cool part, like, forever and that gets a bit tiring at some point Very Happy

Anyway, this album sounds so great! It's pretty much what I hoped it would be.

Bring 'Em Down is really great (and that one small part is SOOOOOO good!)
Center of It All is another gem!

Epilogue is just about to end - and I think it has been the first I'm not that much into (maybe because I'm pumped for fast thrash right now and it was a slow one Very Happy )

Listen Closely started now and sounds really good too!
EDIT: oh dear... Listen Closely is fantastic! This scratches all my fast thrash itches! And the slower parts sound menacing here too!

EDIT2:
Yeah, I love this album! I love how Victor's bass is audible - and it's clearly heard he hasn't lost his any of his bass touch from his days in Tourniquet. Hes especially fantastic in the title track.
And really, I haven't heard this kind of LOVE in thrash drums in ages. Chaffin is a force of nature here! I absolutely love his use of cymbals and there is this special natural feeling in the way he beats the life out of the drums. Somehow I get a "Joey Daub in Believer's Extraction from Mortality" feeling from his drumming. Maybe part of it because the drums really don't sound triggered at all. It really sounds there is a human hitting every single hit on the drums.

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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:32 pm

Thanks for sharing this interview. I really enjoy how honest Jimmy is in its interviews. Just as what I got fron the lyrics, they are all about politics and society, plus two unclear lyrics. Sadly, Deliverance doesn't fit as a christian band anymore.
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Post by Temple of Blood on Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:08 am

Thiago-Brazil wrote: Sadly, Deliverance doesn't fit as a christian band anymore.
Really???? Wow, this is very disappointing.

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Post by FreeRangeBeliever on Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:59 am

Bill Roxx wrote:Yeah if you don’t like straight up thrash like Slayer Testament etc, it won’t be up your alley.

Not true....
I do love straight up thrash...

Sadly after finally getting the new D album this week I was quite disappointed with the whole album.
The songs don't have any memorable riffs imo, and after 2 full listens I felt almost as bad as I did
when Tourniquet released their last album in 2012. 

Sure, the album is well produced...Jimmy sounds fantastic and Jim Chaffin's drums sound great too, but the album just wasn't clicking
with me....

No one can say that it's my taste in straight forward thrash...i regularly listen to new and old thrash....

I have nothing against Jimmy, but this didn't grab me.... I more look foward to his Eraserhead album. But will listen to samples first.
Will be selling this one,sadly
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Post by Airola on Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:21 am

FreeRangeBeliever wrote:
Bill Roxx wrote:Yeah if you don’t like straight up thrash like Slayer Testament etc, it won’t be up your alley.

The songs don't have any memorable riffs imo

Really?
I thought the main riff in Center of It All is among the best in any Deliverance record ever.
In fact that song made its way into one of my all time favorite Deliverance tracks, right there with Prophet of Idiocy and Flesh & Blood.
I also love the riff at 0:30 in Bring 'Em Down and the riff starting at 1:29 in the same song.
Also the riff at 1:50 in Listen Closely is one of my favorite Deliverance riffs ever.

The rest of the riffs mostly range from ok to great.
The only song in this album I don't care for is Epilogue.

I guess those riffs I mentioned I love are quite simple so that could be an issue to some, but I think that even if they are simple they have this certain nice edge and energy to them that I like. The only riff in the album that I kinda see as really run-of-the-mill basic boring riff that I could see every boring new-retro thrash band playing is the riff in Bring 'Em Down that starts at 1:44. Chaffin's drumming saves that part though. And it's nice the song has a couple of other riffs that I really love.

I personally love this album. It ended up being everything I have been hoping for whenever a new Deliverance record was released. I hoped this from As Above, So Below. I hoped this from Hear What I Say. I didn't get it from them, but I finally got it from this. As far as I'm concerned I think if this will be their last album ever the band truly ends on a high note. I couldn't say that from their last two albums.

Oh well, to each their own, I guess Very Happy

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Post by Black Rider on Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:36 pm

I'm kind of with FreeRange, it's just not that memorable which is disappointing. There's a lack of a melody line holding the parts together imo. It's not terrible but kind of meh.
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Post by FreeRangeBeliever on Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:32 pm

Airola - there were a few small parts in songs where the riffs sounded good, but then they stopped.

The songs just didn't have that massive powerful hook that Jimmy used to do with such speed classics as 'Prophet of Idiocy' and 'Blood of the Covenant'. 
Having said that I loved quite a few songs on ''As Above So Below" and 3 or 4 on ''Hear what i say" - if 3 or 4 songs were dropped from 'As above' - towards the end and replaced by the songs The Annals of Subterfuge, Angst and Where Eagles Dare' then 'As Above' would be excellent.

I will have one more listen to 'Subversive Kind' but then will probably sell it.
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Post by Thiago-Brazil on Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:44 am

FreeRange and Black Rider, make sure you got the right album. You probably got River Disturbance or Assimilation instead of The Subversive Kind. Lol.

Now, seriously, I totally agree with Airola on this one. I even agree when he says Prophet of Idiocy and Flesh and Blood are some of the best Deliverance riffs ever.
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Post by FreeRangeBeliever on Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:20 am

I agree..Prophet of Idiocy is some of the best Deliverance stuff ever...Just didn't find anything even close to that good on this album.
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Post by Temple of Blood on Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:03 am

Thiago-Brazil wrote: I even agree when he says Prophet of Idiocy and Flesh and Blood are some of the best Deliverance riffs ever.

Those are two of their best songs ever!

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Post by elManique on Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:13 am

Have given it 3 listens now, it certainly doesn't suck. The title track is most memorable for me.

But it's missing that raw vitality of the first 3 albums, it shows me you just can't go back (to a more youthful immature time). Part of the early charm was the direct, turn-or-burn Christian lyrics - throw in some of that and make the sound less-produced and harsher and we'll get closer.

Still, I'm enjoying this a lot, it's not going to languish.
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