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Post by New Creation on Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:48 am

Does anybody know anything about Star Wars: Underworld (TV series premiering in December, 2018)?
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Post by Andreas89 on Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:57 am

That is new to me. I have heard about plans for a lower levels Coruscant TV series, described as "Empire Strikes Back on steroids" or "Game of Thrones-ish". I don't know if those plans have led to this series.
It sounds interesting either way.
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Post by New Creation on Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:02 am

Andreas89 wrote:That is new to me. I have heard about plans for a lower levels Coruscant TV series, described as "Empire Strikes Back on steroids" or "Game of Thrones-ish". I don't know if those plans have led to this series.
It sounds interesting either way.

Hmmm, I just got to wondering if this is the series that will launch the upcoming Disney version of Netflix.
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Post by alldatndensum on Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:17 pm

Disney doesn't need to launch anything for streaming.  They acquired Hulu when they bought out Fox.  So, all they have to do is start providing material to Hulu and they are done.
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:01 pm

New Creation wrote:I've decided to let go of my hatred for the prequels.

For so long, I've wished that we could erase them from history, or that someone would remake them, or, or, or...

But now I'm just letting them go.

I do own all 3, and do watch them once a year. Whenever a Star Wars movie comes out, as a family, we sit down and watch all movies in chronological order (not release order), and whenever we do, I enjoy the scenes that I like and occasionally, I'll see something or hear something I had not heard before.

But now I'm just going to let them fade. In future years, when we do our little "marathon" (which usually takes 3-4 weeks), I'll leave out the prequels. We have so much material now that I'm just going to let I-III fade into history. Plus, I can always fill their spot with animated features like, 1) Star Wars: Clone Wars (animated series, 2003-2005), 2) Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008, animated movie), 3) Star Wars: The Clone Wars (animated series, 2008-2015), and 4) Star Wars: Rebels (animated series, 2014-present). I am consciously skipping Star Wars: Forces of Destiny (animated series, 2017-present), or, what I'm calling, a poor attempt by Disney to market Star Wars to little girls.
I loved the prequels as a kid, then I grew to resent them because I realized how poor of writing and acting they have, but as time goes on I realize without them the Star Wars universe would feel small, I really like that they are the true building blocks of the scope of the Star Wars galaxy

Thats part of the reason I dont exactly love the sequels, is the universe feels so small

I have to admit that the prequels have the best lightsabers duels, awesome villains and Jedi, if it wasnt for the acting I think they would have more fans

In reality, Lucas was a forerunner as, most of the CW superhero genre is the same kind of rip off cheesy acting drama type shows

Lucas really did it before anyone

I also have to admit, the mark of shame from the prequels is really made up for with The Clone Wars, one of the best animated shows ever
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Post by New Creation on Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:29 am

alldatndensum wrote:Disney doesn't need to launch anything for streaming.  They acquired Hulu when they bought out Fox.  So, all they have to do is start providing material to Hulu and they are done.

I forgot they bought Hulu. Well then they will probably re-brand it and do a big marketing push.
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Post by New Creation on Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:15 pm

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Post by alldatndensum on Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:15 pm

The teaser looks cool, but we will get the full trailer tomorrow.  We will have to wait until then to see how it really looks.
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Post by Andreas89 on Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:56 am

HA! So much for spoiler free Laughing
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Post by alldatndensum on Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:21 am

How was that a spoiler?
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Post by Andreas89 on Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:22 am

Maybe a language thing. Trailers and such are sometimes referred to as spoilers, so Razz
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Post by eatbugs on Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:15 pm

Personally I don't think a trailer is a spoiler.  If I'm wrong, ok.  Nobody made anyone click the link though.

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Post by Hardcore Christian on Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:50 pm

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Post by New Creation on Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:03 am

I love the music in the trailer.
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Post by New Creation on Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:05 am

I hope I'm not being pedantic here, but is anyone else bothered by the look of the logo? The diagonal "SOLO" in the yellow box just looks funny to me. I feel like it's looking at me with two big yellow eyes. Too much empty space. Perhaps it's because I know the character as Han Solo, and not simply Solo.
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Post by MikeInFla on Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:44 am

New Creation wrote: Perhaps it's because I know the character as Han Solo, and not simply Solo.

Me too but when I first saw the title I thought of Greedo who called him "Solo".

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Post by Staybrite on Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:28 pm

Something about the just the word Solo makes me want to grab a plastic red cup and fill it up from the keg.  
I think that might be the reason it kind of bugs me a little.

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Post by New Creation on Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:02 pm

So, not only do we get Episode IX, and the Han Solo movie, and most likely the Obi Wan movie, and the next trilogy of which Rian Johnson is writing the first......

.......but there is yet another trilogy in the works by the Game of Thrones creators, David Benioff and D.B. Weiss! source

Too much Star Wars you say? Not for me!
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Post by eatbugs on Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:08 pm

I'm ok with the never-ending serialization IF they stay good and consistent with each other.  This was the point of Lucas starting with IV after all.  Spin-off's outside of the main series seem unnecessary and even destroy the point of the roman numeral episodizing (sorry spell-check, it's a word now).

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Post by Hardcore Christian on Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:32 pm

I just want an Old Republic movie Razz
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Post by Fundy on Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:18 pm

Here's my order...

1. The Force Awakens (Brilliant, and done with just the right amount of humour!)
2. The Empire Strikes Back (Iconic, and awesome)
2. A New Hope (as good as Empire, nothing bad here!)
4. Return of the Jedi (great, but Ewoks spoil it a bit)
5. Rogue One (Good movie, but not enough Vader)
6. Revenge of the Sith (Probably one of the best SW openers)
7. The Phantom Menace (Much better than people think, although Jar-Jar slightly annoying)
8. The Last Jedi (Some great visuals, but WHAT ON EARTH were they doing with the script!  AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL!)
9. Attack of the Clones (Wooden acting ruined an okay film)
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Post by alldatndensum on Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:10 pm

I felt that the wooden acting was prevalent in all three of the prequels.
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:24 pm

alldatndensum wrote:I felt that the wooden acting was prevalent in all three of the prequels.
Minus McGregor, Neeson, and Lee they were easily the best characters of the trilogy
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Post by alldatndensum on Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:55 pm

Hardcore Christian wrote:
alldatndensum wrote:I felt that the wooden acting was prevalent in all three of the prequels.
Minus McGregor, Neeson, and Lee they were easily the best characters of the trilogy


Compared to both actors who played Anakin and Natalie Portman, a stick could have been a great character.
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Post by eatbugs on Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:27 am

Hardcore Christian wrote:
alldatndensum wrote:I felt that the wooden acting was prevalent in all three of the prequels.
Minus McGregor, Neeson, and Lee they were easily the best characters of the trilogy

I thought Neeson and Lee's skills were under-used.  I don't blame them (or Jackson, Christiansen, Portman, or any other actor), I blame George Lucas for a bad script.  The only characters I thought were written well were Obi Wan and maybe Palpatine.

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Post by Hardcore Christian on Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:19 am

alldatndensum wrote:
Hardcore Christian wrote:
alldatndensum wrote:I felt that the wooden acting was prevalent in all three of the prequels.
Minus McGregor, Neeson, and Lee they were easily the best characters of the trilogy


Compared to both actors who played Anakin and Natalie Portman, a stick could have been a great character.
lol!
eatbugs wrote:
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alldatndensum wrote:I felt that the wooden acting was prevalent in all three of the prequels.
Minus McGregor, Neeson, and Lee they were easily the best characters of the trilogy

I thought Neeson and Lee's skills were under-used.  I don't blame them (or Jackson, Christiansen, Portman, or any other actor), I blame George Lucas for a bad script.  The only characters I thought were written well were Obi Wan and maybe Palpatine.
That's true Lee was heavily underused
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Post by Fundy on Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:12 pm

Lee was a replacement for JarJar, which is oddly bizarre...
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Post by eatbugs on Sat May 26, 2018 11:38 pm

So no buzz here at all about Solo?  Did anyone see it?  Is it worth it?  I'm probably going tomorrow.

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Post by Hardcore Christian on Sun May 27, 2018 6:15 pm

I saw it this morning!

I liked it, so far I think the "stories" are the best thing Disney has done

It had good acting and action, some of the characters were sub-par

(Had one of the best character cameos I have ever seen!) No spoilers though Smile
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Post by eatbugs on Sun May 27, 2018 6:30 pm

Hardcore Christian wrote:(Had one of the best character cameos I have ever seen!) No spoilers though Smile

If you mean at the end, I hated that.  If you mean something else, I guess I missed it.

I think with this one, Rogue One, and any other future spin-offs I'd prefer to limit them and focus on GOOD main sequence (aka numbered) episodes.  I also like there being unexplained things in the Star Wars universe.  I don't need to see [insert spoiler here] from Solo's past to appreciate his character.  In some ways it takes away from the mystique.  That said the "stories" seem to be better written than the two Disney main sequence episodes.

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Post by Hardcore Christian on Sun May 27, 2018 8:44 pm

eatbugs wrote:
Hardcore Christian wrote:(Had one of the best character cameos I have ever seen!) No spoilers though Smile

If you mean at the end, I hated that.  If you mean something else, I guess I missed it.

I think with this one, Rogue One, and any other future spin-offs I'd prefer to limit them and focus on GOOD main sequence (aka numbered) episodes.  I also like there being unexplained things in the Star Wars universe.  I don't need to see [insert spoiler here] from Solo's past to appreciate his character.  In some ways it takes away from the mystique.  That said the "stories" seem to be better written than the two Disney main sequence episodes.
How could you hate it? I assume we are talking about the same thing, I don't think you could have missed it Razz

My main problem is that we had great stories in the form of games, books, and comics before Disney bought Lucas out

And now all the stuff that they are changing with these movies are way less interesting than what we previously had with all the other forms of media

I wish they left it all alone and just made a far future setting for their own universe
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Post by eatbugs on Sun May 27, 2018 11:26 pm

Hardcore Christian wrote:
eatbugs wrote:
Hardcore Christian wrote:(Had one of the best character cameos I have ever seen!) No spoilers though Smile

If you mean at the end, I hated that.  If you mean something else, I guess I missed it.

I think with this one, Rogue One, and any other future spin-offs I'd prefer to limit them and focus on GOOD main sequence (aka numbered) episodes.  I also like there being unexplained things in the Star Wars universe.  I don't need to see [insert spoiler here] from Solo's past to appreciate his character.  In some ways it takes away from the mystique.  That said the "stories" seem to be better written than the two Disney main sequence episodes.
How could you hate it? I assume we are talking about the same thing, I don't think you could have missed it Razz

My main problem is that we had great stories in the form of games, books, and comics before Disney bought Lucas out

And now all the stuff that they are changing with these movies are way less interesting than what we previously had with all the other forms of media

I wish they left it all alone and just made a far future setting for their own universe

Trying to keep this spoiler-free, the individual in question could not have survived what was known to have happened to him in other accepted canon material.

I'm not familiar with the E.U., primarily because I'm a Star Wars fundamentalist.  If Star Wars was a religion I'd be a fundamentalist: the original trilogy are canon and anything that contradicts them is heresy.  I even debate the canonicity of the prequels in my mind for this.

I agree that Disney needs to use their resources and have the best scripts written, not inferior ones made for money.

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Post by Hardcore Christian on Mon May 28, 2018 1:44 am

eatbugs wrote:
Hardcore Christian wrote:
eatbugs wrote:
Hardcore Christian wrote:(Had one of the best character cameos I have ever seen!) No spoilers though Smile

If you mean at the end, I hated that.  If you mean something else, I guess I missed it.

I think with this one, Rogue One, and any other future spin-offs I'd prefer to limit them and focus on GOOD main sequence (aka numbered) episodes.  I also like there being unexplained things in the Star Wars universe.  I don't need to see [insert spoiler here] from Solo's past to appreciate his character.  In some ways it takes away from the mystique.  That said the "stories" seem to be better written than the two Disney main sequence episodes.
How could you hate it? I assume we are talking about the same thing, I don't think you could have missed it Razz

My main problem is that we had great stories in the form of games, books, and comics before Disney bought Lucas out

And now all the stuff that they are changing with these movies are way less interesting than what we previously had with all the other forms of media

I wish they left it all alone and just made a far future setting for their own universe

Trying to keep this spoiler-free, the individual in question could not have survived what was known to have happened to him in other accepted canon material.

I'm not familiar with the E.U., primarily because I'm a Star Wars fundamentalist.  If Star Wars was a religion I'd be a fundamentalist: the original trilogy are canon and anything that contradicts them is heresy.  I even debate the canonicity of the prequels in my mind for this.

I agree that Disney needs to use their resources and have the best scripts written, not inferior ones made for money.
Well I was just saying that the E.U was better than what Disney has done, and have you watched The Clone Wars or Rebels?
(the animated series)

Those two shows and the movies are all that is considered canon by Disney

So if you haven't watched the series then you have missed a lot on said character
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Post by alldatndensum on Mon May 28, 2018 9:57 am

After The Last Jedi, I don't want Rian Johnson anywhere near Star Wars.  He will just hack the crap out of it.  With more time and another viewing, TLJ looks like some child's drawing compared to the Renaissance paintings of the prequels.

I am planning on seeing Solo with a buddy tomorrow.  I hope it is decent.  If not, Star Wars is dead for me.
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Post by oldschooldoom on Mon May 28, 2018 10:29 am

SOLO was my personal most anticipated movie of the year. It did not let me down.
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Post by Hardcore Christian on Mon May 28, 2018 3:12 pm

alldatndensum wrote:After The Last Jedi, I don't want Rian Johnson anywhere near Star Wars.  He will just hack the crap out of it.  With more time and another viewing, TLJ looks like some child's drawing compared to the Renaissance paintings of the prequels.

I am planning on seeing Solo with a buddy tomorrow.  I hope it is decent.  If not, Star Wars is dead for me.
I gotta say its not as bad as people are painting it

Its a decent movie
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Post by eatbugs on Mon May 28, 2018 11:19 pm

Hardcore Christian wrote:
eatbugs wrote:
Hardcore Christian wrote:
eatbugs wrote:
Hardcore Christian wrote:(Had one of the best character cameos I have ever seen!) No spoilers though Smile

If you mean at the end, I hated that.  If you mean something else, I guess I missed it.

I think with this one, Rogue One, and any other future spin-offs I'd prefer to limit them and focus on GOOD main sequence (aka numbered) episodes.  I also like there being unexplained things in the Star Wars universe.  I don't need to see [insert spoiler here] from Solo's past to appreciate his character.  In some ways it takes away from the mystique.  That said the "stories" seem to be better written than the two Disney main sequence episodes.
How could you hate it? I assume we are talking about the same thing, I don't think you could have missed it Razz

My main problem is that we had great stories in the form of games, books, and comics before Disney bought Lucas out

And now all the stuff that they are changing with these movies are way less interesting than what we previously had with all the other forms of media

I wish they left it all alone and just made a far future setting for their own universe

Trying to keep this spoiler-free, the individual in question could not have survived what was known to have happened to him in other accepted canon material.

I'm not familiar with the E.U., primarily because I'm a Star Wars fundamentalist.  If Star Wars was a religion I'd be a fundamentalist: the original trilogy are canon and anything that contradicts them is heresy.  I even debate the canonicity of the prequels in my mind for this.

I agree that Disney needs to use their resources and have the best scripts written, not inferior ones made for money.
Well I was just saying that the E.U was better than what Disney has done, and have you watched The Clone Wars or Rebels?
(the animated series)

Those two shows and the movies are all that is considered canon by Disney

So if you haven't watched the series then you have missed a lot on said character

No, I have only seen a little of Rebels and none of Clone Wars.  Yes, Google told me said character's history.  That's exactly my problem: based on said character's previous experience (boy, this spoiler-free thing is getting really tough  lol! ), that's why I consider stuff like that Star Wars heresy.

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Post by Hardcore Christian on Tue May 29, 2018 1:24 am

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Hardcore Christian wrote:(Had one of the best character cameos I have ever seen!) No spoilers though Smile

If you mean at the end, I hated that.  If you mean something else, I guess I missed it.

I think with this one, Rogue One, and any other future spin-offs I'd prefer to limit them and focus on GOOD main sequence (aka numbered) episodes.  I also like there being unexplained things in the Star Wars universe.  I don't need to see [insert spoiler here] from Solo's past to appreciate his character.  In some ways it takes away from the mystique.  That said the "stories" seem to be better written than the two Disney main sequence episodes.
How could you hate it? I assume we are talking about the same thing, I don't think you could have missed it Razz

My main problem is that we had great stories in the form of games, books, and comics before Disney bought Lucas out

And now all the stuff that they are changing with these movies are way less interesting than what we previously had with all the other forms of media

I wish they left it all alone and just made a far future setting for their own universe

Trying to keep this spoiler-free, the individual in question could not have survived what was known to have happened to him in other accepted canon material.

I'm not familiar with the E.U., primarily because I'm a Star Wars fundamentalist.  If Star Wars was a religion I'd be a fundamentalist: the original trilogy are canon and anything that contradicts them is heresy.  I even debate the canonicity of the prequels in my mind for this.

I agree that Disney needs to use their resources and have the best scripts written, not inferior ones made for money.
Well I was just saying that the E.U was better than what Disney has done, and have you watched The Clone Wars or Rebels?
(the animated series)

Those two shows and the movies are all that is considered canon by Disney

So if you haven't watched the series then you have missed a lot on said character

No, I have only seen a little of Rebels and none of Clone Wars.  Yes, Google told me said character's history.  That's exactly my problem: based on said character's previous experience (boy, this spoiler-free thing is getting really tough  lol! ), that's why I consider stuff like that Star Wars heresy.
Dude your missing out! Rebels is ok, but The Clone Wars had some amazing story lines, that really makes you care about the stuff set-up in the prequels

So many cool arcs with Jedi that finally get some much deserved screen time, you also really care for the clone troopers, and lots of epic episode arcs, featuring Deathwatch, the Nightsisters, Mandalore, and tons of other stuff

Even if you don't care to watch the whole series I wholly recommend checking out the episodes featuring said character

The whole series is on Netflix btw
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Post by eatbugs on Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:46 pm

Bump.

Anyone see the new teaser trailer?

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Post by MikeInFla on Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:01 pm



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Post by MikeInFla on Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:02 pm

And I finally saw Solo yesterday. I liked it a lot.
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Post by oldschooldoom on Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:29 pm

MikeInFla wrote:And I finally saw Solo yesterday. I liked it a lot.
I liked it a lot too! I dare say it is my fave Star Wars flick. I know that it did poorly at the box office and critics were...well critical. But it was a great origin story.
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Post by alldatndensum on Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:46 pm

I don't think Solo was the best SW film to date, but I still like it way more than The Last Jedi.  As time has gone on, I have come to detest that film.  Everything about it felt wrong.  The blew off the big buildup of Rey and Snoke.  They ignored the Knights of Ren.  They forgot that Jedi have to train to be strong in the Force.  They forgot that Leia chose not to be trained in the Jedi ways and would not have been able to pull herself in from space.  She would have died.  Also, why would the new Republic not have destroyed the Resistance in space rather than chase them in slo-mo and risk getting beaten?  That whole mess just doesn't add up.

The new one has a lot of work to do if they want to fix this trilogy for me.  I want to like it, but as Ricky Ricardo used to say to Lucy, "You got some 'splainin' to do!"
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Post by eatbugs on Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:14 am

alldatndensum wrote:The new one has a lot of work to do if they want to fix this trilogy for me.  I want to like it, but as Ricky Ricardo used to say to Lucy, "You got some 'splainin' to do!"

My thoughts exactly.  The Last Jedi could be excellent or could have killed the franchise depending on how the story arc plays out.

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Post by Kerrick on Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:34 am

Of the new Star Wars flicks, I've only seen The Force Awakens and that was enough for me haha.  This new one looks particularly silly IMO.  I suspect Disney (aka Marvel and Star Wars) has hired someone to coach every actor in every one of their movies in making an "intense/determined/dramatic" face and somehow that face-coach got them to sign this crazy contract in which "the face" must be on screen at least 40% of all the movies' runtimes hahahahaha.

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Post by sentient 6 on Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:57 pm

I can't wait for the last episode in the series ! I have a theory about the title and Rey if anyone wants to know. Very Happy  

The Clone Wars is a must for any star wars fan. It fills in a lot of things between attack of the clones and revenge of the sith. The very first clones wars series fills in stuff RIGHT after the AoTC. For any Clone War fans there will be a new series coming out that fills in where the story just dropped off. Rebels starts out kind of slow, but later has some epic stuff in it.

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Post by oldschooldoom on Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:04 pm

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Post by messiaen77 on Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:58 am

alldatndensum wrote:I don't think Solo was the best SW film to date, but I still like it way more than The Last Jedi.  As time has gone on, I have come to detest that film.  Everything about it felt wrong.  The blew off the big buildup of Rey and Snoke.  They ignored the Knights of Ren.  They forgot that Jedi have to train to be strong in the Force.  They forgot that Leia chose not to be trained in the Jedi ways and would not have been able to pull herself in from space.  She would have died.  Also, why would the new Republic not have destroyed the Resistance in space rather than chase them in slo-mo and risk getting beaten?  That whole mess just doesn't add up.

The new one has a lot of work to do if they want to fix this trilogy for me.  I want to like it, but as Ricky Ricardo used to say to Lucy, "You got some 'splainin' to do!"
I must admit I don't really know how these films are working, but I feel like one problem we have between TFA and TLJ is the change of person at the helm.  Like him or not now, there was a continuity to the original trilogy and the prequels because it was all Lucas' baby.  Sure, there were different directors and writers involved, but those films were all the vision of George Lucas.  With these films, I feel like Abrams had a vision for how he wanted the story of this trilogy to go and Johnson had a different vision, so when he took the reins for TLJ, he shifted the direction of the story.  Since some of the stuff Abrams established didn't fit Johnson's vision, he ditched it (Knights of Ren) or resolved it in an unsatisfying manner (Rey's parentage, Snoke).  I also feel like both directors made Phasma an even more disappointing character than Boba Fett.  I mean, I guess they were afraid if they really played her the way the novel depicted her then she would have competed too much with Kylo Ren, but as it is with all the hype and promotion around her--totally wasted character.
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Post by Warzawa on Wed May 08, 2019 3:59 pm

2022 should see the first of a new trilogy

I liked Solo, I liked TLJ as for TLJ the audiobook gave a little more insight on Luke's whole frame of mind. Doesn't excuse or redeem it and its not terrible but I do know that EP 9 should be awesome
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Post by alldatndensum on Sat May 11, 2019 8:33 am

If it isn't, then they will have completely killed my desire for a new trilogy or anything else SWs for that matter.  If it isn't amazing, then Abrams and Johnson will go down in history as the men who broke Star Wars.
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