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Post by rtz on Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:32 am

Looks like Irene could use some help. 
https://www.gofundme.com/irene-mr-president

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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by oldschooldoom on Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:39 am

That's sad
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by Temple of Blood on Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:06 pm

I noticed that many things these days that are really an outrage are characterized as merely "sad".

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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by Opeth3232 on Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:54 pm

Tragic? If true how can Tim look himself in the mirror?
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by Thiago-Brazil on Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:28 pm

From what I understood, she is former Tim Gaines wife?

It is a failure in the system, maybe. Here in Brazil, you simply can't clear the bank account and leave your former wife or husband with all the bills.

I am not judging, I am just saying...
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by hellig on Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:28 am

I would like to hear Tim's side, but if this is true, he's dead to me.

Go ahead and waste your prayers on him and his new "wife".
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Post by New Creation on Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:47 am

Thiago-Brazil wrote:I am not judging, I am just saying...

Seems like everyone around here is scared to judge. If one judges rightly, then there is no problem with judging, it is actually encouraged.

I Corinthians 6:1-5

Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by Follower of Jesus on Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:59 am

The problem is that we don't have all the facts. 1Corinthians 6 was addressed to a local church. In that context it's much more likely that those doing the judging will have most or all of the facts of a situation. For us here, we simply don't. It feels like gossip to me.
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by New Creation on Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:08 am

Follower of Jesus wrote:The problem is that we don't have all the facts. 1Corinthians 6 was addressed to a local church. In that context it's much more likely that those doing the judging will have most or all of the facts of a situation. For us here, we simply don't. It feels like gossip to me.

I never judge without all the facts, and if I judge and then later find out the "facts" were wrong, I always issue an apology. That's why I stated in the original Tim Gaines thread

If this is truth, then I am very disappointed. Family is the primary building block of our society and when it is destroyed by acts like this, we all fall down.

If this is false or only rumor, then I'm disappointed in the Body of Christ for allowing it to be spread.
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by Thiago-Brazil on Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:13 am

I would say that everybody here has its own reasons.

We can judge as it says so in the bible, but I don't think we will ever be able to know all the facts (as weel as the cases that happened in that local church in Corinthians). But at least to hear both sides of the history would be suitable.

Anyway, I am steering clear of such a controversial, topic. I am just chatting...
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by Thiago-Brazil on Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:15 am

hellig wrote:I would like to hear Tim's side, but if this is true, he's dead to me.

Go ahead and waste your prayers on him and his new "wife".
Prayers are never wasted. 

And if this is true, I would say that he is the one that really needs prayer.
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by oldschooldoom on Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:54 am

Getting sadder by the post
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by exo on Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:41 am

It's not my place/job to "forgive" Tim's transgression here.  I'm not the victim of what he's done.

It IS my job to decide whether or not I can continue to respect a man that behaves this way, if it is true.

I can not. It's antithetical to every belief I hold in regards to marriage, and how you treat another person.  Words strong enough to cover my feelings on the matter are not fit for CMR.  Enough said on that, methinks.

If this is even semi-true, the Stryper ABSOLUTELY made the right move cutting ties.........

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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by jaydeecrawson on Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:48 am

I'm going through a bad divorce modification with my EX wife now.

And she slanders me, terrorizes me, and emotionally beats me up.

I've already spent about $5000 in legal fees to get my divorce from 2010 modified.

My ex wife has said evil, crass, vile things about me...

So my point is: I think we should all mind our own business even if this is true.

It's their business.... and there is ALWAYS a spin. there is always more than one interpretation.

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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by d@v!d on Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:58 pm

jaydeecrawson wrote: there is always more than one interpretation.
True, opinions on this kind of stuff should be stayed until all the info is available, but...

It probably is truly this bad. There are only 2 ways to get kicked out of Stryper, either do something this messed up as reported about Tim, or become and actual Christian. Wink
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by Hardcore Christian on Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:24 pm

The whole situation definitely needs analyzing from a bunch of guys on the internet, who do not know the view from both sides

These kind of topics are why the internet can be a joke sometimes
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by messiaen77 on Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:37 pm

Gosh, I thought from the title of the thread that maybe Tim had really gotten sucked into the whole glam metal androgyny thing hard core and had "transitioned" into Irene Kelly.  Guess I got that one wrong.
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by jaydeecrawson on Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:04 pm

messiaen77 wrote:Gosh, I thought from the title of the thread that maybe Tim had really gotten sucked into the whole glam metal androgyny thing hard core and had "transitioned" into Irene Kelly.  Guess I got that one wrong.

That's what I thought too.

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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by Thiago-Brazil on Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:04 pm

Hardcore Christian wrote:The whole situation definitely needs analyzing from a bunch of guys on the internet, who do not know the view from both sides

These kind of topics are why the internet can be a joke sometimes
Well, When it comes to an internet forum, what would you expect?

And I am pretty sure there are much more foolish things on the internet than this to be concerned about.
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by alldatndensum on Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:11 pm

To be honest, the whole situation smells.  All I can do is pray for them as I don't personally know them and have no way to really minister to them.
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by Sir Shred A Lot on Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:17 am

Tim Gaines just posted this on Facebook:

Howdy folks, Here is a KNAC interview that I gave with Faithsedge vocalist Giancarlo Floridia, earlier this week. This is the "official" unofficial announcement many have been waiting for from myself.
I know many of you have been speculating the validity of the "rumors" flying around over the last year in regard to my position within the Stryper band. I had even been speculating as to whether my 34 year bass player position would be safe. In May of 2017, I received a letter of "termination" by Stryper's legal representative. I was very disappointed by this decision, but it was expected.
I want to thank the many fans over the years who have rallied behind THIS bass player. For me, playing the bass is all I am. Whether it be in front of a crowd of 30,000 or to a few in a living room. I just enjoy playing and making music. I have several projects that I am working on. First, another solo album. I have been writing music over the last several months in preparation. Second, I am getting ready to record another album with Faithsedge. We are hoping to tour Europe and Japan in 2018/2019. Third, I am playing in a "supergroup" of sorts, with several 80s MTV rockers. I can't really say much at the moment, but we will be making an announcement soon. Fourth, It's time to write a book... and that's all I gotta say about.
See you in 2018
~TG

He also just did an interview in which he addresses some of the matters related to his divorce: http://knac.com/article.asp?ArticleID=25537

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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by deathisgain on Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:23 pm

After reading the band's statement, this is probably going to get messy.
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by jusma on Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:43 am

Dear fans and friends,

We wish Timothy Gaines nothing but the best, and we will always remember the history and the good times that we all shared together. We have done our best to remain courteous and professional despite the barrage of disrespectful comments, posts and tweets that have been made public time and time again by Tim and Brandee on what seems to be a daily basis.
 
The accusations that have been made that our decision to terminate Tim is based on his divorce couldn't be further from the truth. We have all struggled with separation and divorce in our relationships over the years, and it has never affected anyone's position within the band.
 
The band decided to take a hiatus in order to give Tim time and space to work through his personal issues. However, based on Tim and Brandee’s intentional, erratic and hostile behavior, which has damaged Stryper and threatened to undermine the band’s ability to go forward professionally, we were left with no other choice but to part ways. Tim and Brandee have left their scars and have hurt us in more ways than you can imagine.
 
We were also forced to retain legal representation based on a public post/threat that Tim made about suing the band in 2016.
 
Tim is our brother, and we love him but this has become a toxic relationship at this point and due to that, we cannot continue on with our mission and stay true to who we are and what we represent with Tim in the band.  
 
We're excited about the future and we will be making an official announcement very soon about our new album, tour and bassist.
 
We love our fans and we appreciate your support and patience as we work through these changes. The best is yet to come!
 
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by Thiago-Brazil on Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:21 pm

The official announcement was really though to Tim. I was expecting something with less details, like: "we decided to part ways due to different thinking about the band's future", or so.

Anyway, I do think it is the best decision at the moment and it looks like Tim will be very busy in the following months.
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by My Awesome Timothy on Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:03 am

Tim posted this just now.....

My recent demise within the Stryper camp came about because I actually have testicles. I stood my ground when I was told to give up the woman I love, (who is now my wife) or get fired. I threatened to sue. I was "conveniently" fired 10 days after my marriage to Brandee, on the grounds that I made some posts threatening to sue the band for wrongful termination. They called it "threats." 
My recommendation to Oz and Bob? Grow some balls and stand up to that pathetic one and his conniving wife, or just continue to live a life of mediocrity. You both have been threatened with termination over the last several years. He has a million dollar home. You rent and drive 20 year old broken down cars. You both have NOTHING to show for your 35 years. Quit playing rock star and get a clue dumbshitz.


This is getting really nasty and is damaging for everyone.  I've stuck by Christian Metal for years and will continue to do so but in recent years probably due to social media so much has been brought to light with some horrendous things being exposed.
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by Fundy on Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:13 am

I hate reading this sort of stuff.  Really sad.  I just wish they'd keep it private.. although that is virtually impossible given who they are.
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Post by My Awesome Timothy on Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:33 am

Fundy wrote:I hate reading this sort of stuff.  Really sad.  I just wish they'd keep it private.. although that is virtually impossible given who they are.

Yep, it's really uncomfortable reading.
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by MikeInFla on Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:54 am

No need for this mudslinging. Oh well. Stryper will move on as they always have. Back during the "Radio" video I saw Oz and Rob. Wondered where Tim was at the time. Looking forward to new music from Stryper and Michael. Tim is venting I guess but some things are better left unsaid.
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by deathisgain on Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:47 pm

I said this was going to get ugly. Hopefully the rest of the guys can let this slide, so it doesn't get worse. I hate when mom and dad fight!
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by Tombie on Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:35 pm

I agree, this is getting ugly. It should be handled privately. Most of us know when emotions get in the way that we don't always think straight and we say and do things we do not normally do. I do not know the details of all what is going on but I know that there are three sides to every story and if it doesn't involve me, I don't get involved at all. Praying for all involved and that they don't go to far to reconcile their relationship. I'm out...
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by Temple of Blood on Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:15 pm

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ex-stryper-bassist-tim-gaines-slams-michael-sweet-tells-his-former-bandmates-to-grow-some-balls/

I woulda fired this guy a long time ago.

Why does he think the three of them deserve to live like Michael does?  Michael IS Stryper!  All those guys can be easily replaced, like so many other bands have effectively done so many times.

Write some great songs or have some sort of noteworthy indispensable talent and you will be noticed like Michael is.  Until then, get a real job.

I'm Team Michael all the way based on what I'm hearing outta this guy.  He's lucky he lived close enough to them to even be in the band in the first place.

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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by Thiago-Brazil on Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:00 pm

Wow. The whole thing is weird. Both sides said something they probably shouldn't. But I don't really care about the whole situation being opened to the public. I prefer to know what is really happening instead of getting that official note saying thanks to all the years of dedication for the band and best lucky in their future endeavors and blablabla.

I won't take sides. On one hand I do see how important Michael is to Stryper, but on other hand I think Tim has the right to request a better wage as he probably did. Its their work, and we know as things like these happens on a daily basis in our companies.
But maybe Tim should take it easy on Robert and Oz, as they are apparently happy with their own situation.
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Re: Irene Kelly (Tim Gaines)

Post by Opeth3232 on Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:04 pm

Sad.
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