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Post by Hardcore Christian on Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:42 am

Believer just posted on their facebook for the first time in over 2 years

They said: "New music, new brew coming in March!"

Along with a photo of the brew

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Post by Sir Shred A Lot on Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:01 am

Thanks for sharing this news. I had given up hope that they would ever release new music.

I noticed on their website that they are listing the exact release date as March 18th.
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Post by FreeRangeBeliever on Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:35 am

I was very shocked to see this news the other day...there had been no news for about 2 years...
Don't know if the new music on March 18th is a total new album or just new songs ahead of an album release.
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Post by roblinb on Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:58 am

Yeah that's pretty awesome.  I'm willing to bet that the music will be good but I have to say that I'm most interested in what direction that they go lyrically.  Gabriel was a bit bleak, and less openly Christian than their earlier material, and Transhuman was a concept album.  

I have no idea what to expect from these guys, but it should be entertaining at least.

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Post by TheOldMan2084 on Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:38 pm

I liked Gabriel alright, but didn't care much for Transhuman. I kinda wish they'd just give in and give us a thrash album.
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Post by arttieTHE1manparty on Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:27 am

Absolutely not trying to stir the pot here, but I thought it was a pretty widely held belief that Believer were...well...no longer believers.


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Post by New Creation on Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:54 am

arttieTHE1manparty wrote:Absolutely not trying to stir the pot here, but I thought it was a pretty widely held belief that Believer were...well...no longer believers.


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Post by crucifyd on Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:11 am

arttieTHE1manparty wrote:Absolutely not trying to stir the pot here, but I thought it was a pretty widely held belief that Believer were...well...no longer believers.

hmmm...I've never seen anything about this...

have they stated that they are not Christians? or are you referring to the whole "Christain band" vs "Christians in a band" thing? (I dont' think you are, just looking for clarification)

do you have any sources?
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Post by New Creation on Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:02 am

crucifyd wrote:
arttieTHE1manparty wrote:Absolutely not trying to stir the pot here, but I thought it was a pretty widely held belief that Believer were...well...no longer believers.

hmmm...I've never seen anything about this...

have they stated that they are not Christians? or are you referring to the whole "Christain band" vs "Christians in a band" thing? (I dont' think you are, just looking for clarification)

do you have any sources?

This discussion happened a few years ago. 

http://thecmr.forumotion.com/t6239-is-believer-still-a-christian-band
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Post by Follower of Jesus on Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:12 am

arttieTHE1manparty wrote:Absolutely not trying to stir the pot here, but I thought it was a pretty widely held belief that Believer were...well...no longer believers.


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I thought about this when I saw the thread, but decided to keep my mouth shut. The owner of the board can do it, though!  Twisted Evil
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Post by arttieTHE1manparty on Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:05 am

I do what I want when I want! MWAHAHAH!

Like I said (and anyone who knows me knows this to be true) I am NOT a pot-stirrer. It was more a question than a statement.


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Post by crucifyd on Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:23 am

New Creation wrote:
crucifyd wrote:
arttieTHE1manparty wrote:Absolutely not trying to stir the pot here, but I thought it was a pretty widely held belief that Believer were...well...no longer believers.

hmmm...I've never seen anything about this...

have they stated that they are not Christians? or are you referring to the whole "Christain band" vs "Christians in a band" thing? (I dont' think you are, just looking for clarification)

do you have any sources?

This discussion happened a few years ago. 

http://thecmr.forumotion.com/t6239-is-believer-still-a-christian-band


well I read the thread and listened to the podcast (admittedly was doing other on the computer as well, so not paying 100% attention). I didn't read/hear anything that seemed like Kurt or anyone saying something along the lines of "I am not a Christian" but rather all I came away with is something they've been saying for at least 25 years, the whole thing of not wanting the "Christian band" label...
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Post by Sir Shred A Lot on Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:47 am

I've never seen anywhere that Kurt or Joey has said anything remotely like, "I am no longer a Christian." Where have they said such a thing?

Yes, they've said that they're not a Christian band, but that's the same thing that people like Michael Sweet have said repeatedly, too.
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Post by crucifyd on Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:47 am

Sir Shred A Lot wrote:I've never seen anywhere that Kurt or Joey has said anything remotely like, "I am no longer a Christian." Where have they said such a thing?

Yes, they've said that they're not a Christian band, but that's the same thing that people like Michael Sweet have said repeatedly, too.

my post above about reading/listening was mainly in response to this post:

arttieTHE1manparty wrote:Absolutely not trying to stir the pot here, but I thought it was a pretty widely held belief that Believer were...well...no longer believers.


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Post by My Awesome Timothy on Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:53 pm

Just over 13 hours to go!!!!  Cool
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Post by TheOldMan2084 on Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:07 pm

I'll be really interested to see what direction they go in this time.
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Post by My Awesome Timothy on Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:49 am

TheOldMan2084 wrote:I'll be really interested to see what direction they go in this time.
What when they go on tour?!!!   Rolf 2 Rolf 1 lol!
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Post by Sir Shred A Lot on Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:58 am

I'm seeing info pop up in different places, but can't find the original sources. Here is some info, and then be sure to follow the links for new band photos and artwork:

Pennsylvania-based progressive metallers BELIEVER are back with new music. New songs from the band will be made available throughout 2017, culminating in the release of a physical product to be announced later this year. BELIEVER fans will enjoy (or not) digital releases every few months with new artwork from Eye Level Studio's Michael Rosner to accompany each release. The first installment, titled "1 Of 5", contains two songs and will be released via Trauma Team Productions on March 18. The songs were mixed by Kevin Gutierrez (RAVENPROJECT: FAILING FLESHDECEASEDDYSRYTHMIAGARDEN OF SHADOWS) at Assembly Line Studios and mastered by Bill Wolf of Wolf Productions.
As BELIEVER fans know, the band's sound is constantly evolving as they explore new creative directions with each release. Kurt Bachman (guitar/vocals) explains: "At this point our goal was to write good songs, but to also make ourselves feel a bit musically uncomfortable.
"We have long admired the musicianship of RUSHYESKANSAS, etc., but it was their ability to write great, memorable songs that has always inspired us.
"After 30 years, I would say that with these songs, we are combining the BELIEVER sound with our very early musical roots and having a fun time doing it!"
To coincide with the first installment of new music and to celebrate the 30th anniversary of both Pennsylvania institutions, BELIEVER and Stoudts Brewing Company (Adamstown, Pennsylvania) are releasing Believer Double Bock beer on March 18.
In true BELIEVER style, this brew is unique. The limited release Believer Double Bock Beer, aged in port and red wine barrels, blends coffee and dark chocolate malt flavors with hints of caramel and dark fruits for a taste experience that exemplifies the art of brewing beer and making music. The beer's label and packaging were also designed by Michael Rosner of Eye Level StudioBeliever Double Bock is a limited release and will be available at Stoudts Restaurant and select Pennsylvania locations.
BELIEVER gained worldwide recognition for its boundary-breaking, artistic form of progressive metal music, throwing open the doors to collaborations between metal and orchestral musicians and sealing the band's legacy. Their focus on creativity and innovation has earned praise from fans and musicians worldwide.
BELIEVER's last album, "Transhuman", was released in April 2011 via Metal Blade Records.
Visit believerband.com for information regarding the new music and Stoudts Believer Double Bock retail locations and merchandise.
BELIEVER is:
Kurt Bachman - Guitar, Bass, Vocals
Jeff King - Keyboards, Bass, Guitar
Kevin Leaman - Guitar
Joey Daub - Drums



http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/legendary-pennsylvania-prog-metallers-believer-to-release-new-music-throughout-2017/
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Post by Sir Shred A Lot on Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:30 pm

The two new tunes are "Home" and "888." My worst fears have become realized...

These tunes are nothing like the Believer I have loved. It's basically nu-metal with some atmospherics thrown in. "Home" just drags on and on. It's about two minutes longer than it should be. "888" has more crunch, but it lacks energy. I don't even think I'll bother to listen to the remaining eight songs that they'll be releasing this year. Yuck...

I thought that "Gabriel" and "Transhuman" were OK, but these new songs do nothing for me.
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Post by My Awesome Timothy on Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:52 pm

Sir Shred A Lot wrote:The two new tunes are "Home" and "888." My worst fears have become realized...

These tunes are nothing like the Believer I have loved. It's basically nu-metal with some atmospherics thrown in. "Home" just drags on and on. It's about two minutes longer than it should be. "888" has more crunch, but it lacks energy. I don't even think I'll bother to listen to the remaining eight songs that they'll be releasing this year. Yuck...

I thought that "Gabriel" and "Transhuman" were OK, but these new songs do nothing for me.


Oh dear!!!  Neutral
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Post by average joe on Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:21 pm

Yeah, as if naming a beer Believer was not enough of a turn-off.

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Post by Louder on Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:06 pm

It's not what I was hoping for, but I enjoyed both songs.
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Post by My Awesome Timothy on Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:34 pm

Just listened to the new songs, they are enjoyable but because I love thrash metal I can't help but think.....Believer you were such a talented thrash metal band one of the best in the world...... please bring back the thrash!!! What has happened to mighty Believer?!!!  Suspect
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Post by Sir Shred A Lot on Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:33 am

In case anyone is unaware, the songs are streaming for free at their Bandcamp site: https://believer.bandcamp.com/releases
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Post by crucifyd on Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:58 am

you should give it a chance...

I like 'em so far...

I'd say thrash / speed metal is my favorite genre but at the same time it's nice to have something different to listen to ...
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Post by roblinb on Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:31 am

Sir Shred A Lot wrote:The two new tunes are "Home" and "888." My worst fears have become realized...

These tunes are nothing like the Believer I have loved. It's basically nu-metal with some atmospherics thrown in. "Home" just drags on and on. It's about two minutes longer than it should be. "888" has more crunch, but it lacks energy. I don't even think I'll bother to listen to the remaining eight songs that they'll be releasing this year. Yuck...

I thought that "Gabriel" and "Transhuman" were OK, but these new songs do nothing for me.


I can see where you're coming from, especially when it comes to "Home."  That is a really left field tune, and sounds like nothing that they've done before, which usually that hasn't bothered me with these guys before....  but to be honest I just found it to be really weird and a little dull.  However the second track "888" was much better in my opinion(and I wonder what the deal is with the song title).  It sounded more similar to the progressive Transhuman style, and I thought it was catchy. 

I couldn't make out some of the lyrics, so I couldn't accurately tell you about what theme or subject matter that they might be covering on this still untitled new album.

I wouldn't be surprised if they have some heavier stuff coming, though.  They do still enjoy playing that stuff, so hopefully we get to hear some.


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Post by Hardcore Christian on Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:47 am

I really like these songs! Having never really bought an album since I found a copy of Extraction, I have little expectations

That said, I'll have to view lyrical content before I spend anything on this
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Post by Guest on Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:39 am

Listening to these, I get their comments about writing good songs. The songs are well written. I like them quite a bit. It's some simple atmospheric rock with some chunkier guitar work and great vocals. It's not progressive, just merely different. It's certainly no stretch from Transhuman. Musically, I'm neither surprised nor disappointed. I had no expectation anyway.

Will I buy the album? Probably not. I found Transhuman and Gabriel musically fine but there was really no value for me. Lyrically, there was nothing of any worth and as such they had no lasting value beyond the initial hope and excitement of getting a favorite band back. If there's no value in the message it won't really matter how much I like it musically.

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Post by Hardcore Christian on Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:56 am

MK58 wrote: Musically, I'm neither surprised nor disappointed. I had no expectation anyway.

Will I buy the album? Probably not.
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Post by metaldude on Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:38 pm

My first two thoughts...

1.  I love that bass sound.
2. It sounds like Believer channeling King's X.
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Post by cailen on Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:02 am

My first two thoughts...

 1. Pop
 2. Sounds like a softer version of Transhuman





 Third thought: Blurred visions .....


 Fourth thought: Worldly rejection ...



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Post by Temple of Blood on Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:54 am

First thought:  I'm tired of metal bands peddling beer and coffee.

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Post by New Creation on Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:55 am

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